Re: [ranchos] Who are we? was Re: double surnames

[Joseph Puentes <makas@...>]

Jessica Wilson wrote:

Reading all of your thoughts makes me wonder what my children will feel.

yes a great time to discreetly open the topic for discussion with them. good time to do some teaching. start to mold their minds before the school yard bullies feed them a pack of lies

I guess I come from a completely different side. My parents are (of what we know) of Irish, Scottish, and American Indian descent. I have no relatives that I know from Mexico but my husband is from Mexico. Before we were married I had to confront some beliefs and feelings that were very ingrained in me that I never knew I had.

great to have been able to recognize this. . .sooooo many never ever even consider that the problem might lie within themselves or that another way of thinking might be better or more correct that the way they think.

I struggled with the idea that the man I loved and wanted to share my life with was from Mexico. I am embarrassed to say I felt that way.

you were embarrassed then but should be proud now that you met your conflict head on and made the right choice. [Sounds to me like it was the right choice 8^) ]

The term Mexican to me was always kind of a derogative term. Early on when we were just dating I even wished he was from another part of the world that sounded more exotic. I was a missionary and learned Spanish and I was comfortable helping families but that was were my comfort zone ended. Time teaches you many things. I wondered whether the differences I thought we had were too wide for us to be able to gap. Remembering my thoughts makes me understand the prejudices that we sometimes come across. I find myself wanting to find out more about my husbands ancestors to be able to teach my children how proud they should be of both of their heritages. I don’t ever want them to be ashamed because there is nothing to be ashamed about. I want them to feel as you do and to know of their people and why they can proud. We speak both Spanish and English in the home because I want them to be able to speak to all of their family members and relatives both here an in Mexico. I have been able to completely overcome the thoughts I had because I have learned from my husband. He has taught me that what I once thought made one better than another doesn’t exist and that we are all trying to succeed in this life.

And we are succeeding. Just showing up is success. and most of us are showing up everyday and have been for quite awhile. I feel proud that I've been and continue showing up everyday.

I never want my children to think one heritage is better than another. I hope that I will be able to tell them who their ancestors were on both sides. Interestingly enough one of the things I enjoy the most is our differences.

Sounds to me like you are the just the right Mom for your children. My regards to them and the Just right for them Dad, your husband.

I hope as you get into the films from Valparaiso that you are met with success in finding your father in law, Crescencio's parents (Antonio Castaneda- Martinez or Dominguez/Teodora Salazar). How far away are you located from your Family History Center?

you'll just have to guess when they were born. forexample if Crescencio was the first born figure that the parents were about 17-22 years old or maybe move it a little 15-25, but if he was the 10th born figure they cold be 27-32 if she had a child once a year or maybe 30-35 if you give her a couple of years when she didn't have children. So then order a film back from 1938 to about 1920 or 1919:

Title
Registros parroquiales, 1831-1973

Authors
Iglesia Católica. La Purísima (Valparaíso, Zacatecas) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en los archivos de la parroquia y del Obispado de Zacatecas.
Algunos de los libros incluyen índice.
Incluye registros de capillas cercanas en la hacienda (ahora el pueblo) de San Mateo, en la hacienda (ahora el ejido) de San Miguel, y otras capillas cercanas.
Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages and deaths from Valparaíso, Zacatecas, Mexico.

Subjects
México, Zacatecas, Valparaíso - Church records
México, Zacatecas, San Mateo - Church records
México, Zacatecas, San Miguel - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1981-1988

Physical
31 rollos de microfilme ; 35 mm., 16 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]

Bautismos 1895-1913 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1164734 ]
Bautismos 1902-1917 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1164735 ]
Bautismos 1911-1918 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1164736 ]

Some of these films would be good choices. You'll have to just roll through them frame by frame. Others in the group can tell you if they have indexes to them. I'm not sure.

joseph

Jessica Castaneda