RE: [ranchos] information on records

[Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@...>]

This is so interesting and too much of a coincidence.

 

My tia who´s my dad´s youngest sister called me today to say that her sister-in law was coming into town, that is my uncle´s wife who I´ve never met. We met for the first time today and I also met a first cousin, their daughter. We were exchanging names and she asked me "Do you want my full name", and I said of course. She laughed and proceeded to tell me what was behind her laugh. Her mother chose her name to be Noemi but when she was baptized she was baptized as Liduvina, Noemi, Avelar and at the civil registry as Liduvina Avelar.

 

She always went by the name Noemi but when she went to take exams to get into preparatory school she filled out the exam form as Noemi and the teacher came around to see who Noemi was because the legal (civil) documents presented said Liduvina not Noemi and they did not have anyone registered as Noemi. That´s the first time she knew she was something other than Noemi. She then proceeded to ask why and she was told that it was her aunt/godmother who chose the name Liduvina because she liked it and she was the one who went to the civil registry to notify the registrar of her birth and she was the godmother at the baptism so there again she was the one who told them her given name.

 

I believe my cousin is around 35-40 years of age, so you see it's still happening there, not only in the distant past.

 

Alicia Avelar de Carrillo

San Jose, Ca

Irma GomezLucero <igomezlucero@...> wrote:

I recall telling my mom & aunt about a family baptism record having the wrong information.  They  informed the same about the mother not attending her own child's baptism.  The mother stayed in bed, had chicken soup, and didn't bathe for 40 days!   It used to be the belief that a child needed to be baptized right away within a few days of birth.  Since the mother needed to "Guardar reposo" for 40 days, she was unable to attend the baptism.  The father did go with the godparents in our experience.  My father even had to hire someone to take care of my mother after my oldest sister's birth.  This lady cared for my mom, and their home during these 40 days which was a real financial drain on them at the time.  I guess he had to go to work, and couldn't care for her & the baby.  I met the elderly lady on my last visit to Mexico with my dad.    My mother only attended her children's baptisms when she immigrated to the U.S.

Irma

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From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 2:36 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] information on records

so if the mother was in bed and the father was off doing war or work
then no one for the family except the padrinos were there to tell the
story. . .hmmmm, this makes good sense now.

thanks,

joseph

ps: where did you get the "Mothers were never at baptisms since the
custom was for her to stay in bed for 40 days.. " information?


Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

>Many times information was being given by other members of the party
>at the church who did not know who parents or grandparents were,
>especially if the people were deceased or the family had moved.
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>Mothers were never at baptisms since the custom was for her to stay in
>bed for 40 days.. that meant that someone else had to give her family
>info and they were often wrong if there had been a remarriage after
>the death of the first wife, her mother, for instance..
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>Linda from Wa.
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