Re: information on records

["Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@...>]

My maternal grandmother was always known to us as Felicina.  She was 
not even aware of the fact that her legal "civil" name was Evangelina 
until she was required to obtain an official birth certificate for an 
immigration or social security process.  Thank God that the person 
working at the registrar was smart enough to look around a bit and 
find her certificate under her "other" name by matching her parents, 
place of birth, etc.  I think that she even had her birthdate wrong 
by a few days.  Her civil name was Evangelina and nowhere in her 
civil record did the name Felicina appear.  I think this is a pretty 
common phenomenon.  The other is the six brothers whose name 
is "Jose" but each goes under some other name such that "Jose de 
Jesus" is called Chuy, Jose Antonio is called "Tonyo" and Jose 
Francisco is called "Pancho".  


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote:
> This is so interesting and too much of a coincidence.
>  
> My tia who´s my dad´s youngest sister called me today to say that 
her sister-in law was coming into town, that is my uncle´s wife who 
I´ve never met. We met for the first time today and I also met a 
first cousin, their daughter. We were exchanging names and she asked 
me "Do you want my full name", and I said of course. She laughed and 
proceeded to tell me what was behind her laugh. Her mother chose her 
name to be Noemi but when she was baptized she was baptized as 
Liduvina, Noemi, Avelar and at the civil registry as Liduvina Avelar.
>  
> She always went by the name Noemi but when she went to take exams 
to get into preparatory school she filled out the exam form as Noemi 
and the teacher came around to see who Noemi was because the legal 
(civil) documents presented said Liduvina not Noemi and they did not 
have anyone registered as Noemi. That´s the first time she knew she 
was something other than Noemi. She then proceeded to ask why and she 
was told that it was her aunt/godmother who chose the name Liduvina 
because she liked it and she was the one who went to the civil 
registry to notify the registrar of her birth and she was the 
godmother at the baptism so there again she was the one who told them 
her given name.
>  
> I believe my cousin is around 35-40 years of age, so you see it's 
still happening there, not only in the distant past.
>  
> Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
> San Jose, Ca
> 
> Irma GomezLucero <igomezlucero@c...> wrote:
> I recall telling my mom & aunt about a family baptism record having 
the wrong information.  They  informed the same about the mother not 
attending her own child's baptism.  The mother stayed in bed, had 
chicken soup, and didn't bathe for 40 days!   It used to be the 
belief that a child needed to be baptized right away within a few 
days of birth.  Since the mother needed to "Guardar reposo" for 40 
days, she was unable to attend the baptism.  The father did go with 
the godparents in our experience.  My father even had to hire someone 
to take care of my mother after my oldest sister's birth.  This lady 
cared for my mom, and their home during these 40 days which was a 
real financial drain on them at the time.  I guess he had to go to 
work, and couldn't care for her & the baby.  I met the elderly lady 
on my last visit to Mexico with my dad.    My mother only attended 
her children's baptisms when she immigrated to the U.S.
> Irma
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> From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@n...] 
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 2:36 PM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ranchos] information on records
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> 
> so if the mother was in bed and the father was off doing war or 
work 
> then no one for the family except the padrinos were there to tell 
the 
> story. . .hmmmm, this makes good sense now.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: where did you get the "Mothers were never at baptisms since the 
> custom was for her to stay in bed for 40 days.. " information?
> 
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> Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
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> >Many times information was being given by other members of the 
party 
> >at the church who did not know who parents or grandparents were, 
> >especially if the people were deceased or the family had moved.
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> >Mothers were never at baptisms since the custom was for her to 
stay in 
> >bed for 40 days.. that meant that someone else had to give her 
family 
> >info and they were often wrong if there had been a remarriage 
after 
> >the death of the first wife, her mother, for instance..
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> >Linda from Wa.
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