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yes good point you just never know what you're going to find. I've
received films that didn't have what they were suppose to have on them,
but that is the rare exception at least with the films I've looked at.
joseph
George Luna wrote:
I have attached a document from FHL Intl 445242 Entierros (Tepetongo,
Zacatecas) that is a marriage document. I have found others. Being
listed among the dead is no way to start a marriage. But, it is another
reason to look at entierros.
George
Joseph Puentes wrote:
I love death records. . .hmmm, that didn't sound right.
I've found great wealth in them, but have to agree that the
information can sometimes be very slim in them. I find that if the
person was married it will many times only give the spouses name but
if the person died as a child then the parents. But in those uncommon
but wonderful cases it gives the spouse and the parents. and the age
and the location and that they were previously married (but not who
to). And the cause of death.
I've found a few that gave all the details and agonized over the ones
that I so much wanted the details but all it gave was the name of the
person and spouses name and cause of death.
my Grandfather had 11 siblings according to the birth records, but all
anyone ever knew about was 5. I haven't found all the death records
but this would be an area where these type of mysteries can be cleared
up, like Alicia said in her example.
I remember the first time I found my GGG grandmother, Eduarda Torres'
death certificate (she died 3 days after giving birth). I felt like
someone had just then died in my family. I mourned for her. . .I was
really sad.
joseph
ps: see attached for an example of my GGGG grandfather's: Pedro Torres
Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Arturo,
I have looked at some films for entierros or defunciones for
Nochistlan Zac, therefore I can only speak of these findings. They
can be hit or miss, some are very explicit as to the cause of death
but very sparse in terms of familial connections. For example if it
was a spouse who died at child birth it will give the husband's name
but won't say who her parents are. Most of what I found in entierros
or defunciones did not give a lot of information about family relations.
It's good film to view for historical purposes. I gleaned from some
of these films that there was an epidemic in a certain area of
typhoid fever or that a high incidence of infants were dying of
infeccion del ombligo/infection of the umbilical cord which could
lead one to believe that they had little or no medical care at child
birth. There were many women who died de "nacimiento prematuro''
which didn't make sense to me that it should be put in these terms.
Premature labor is not necessarily cause for the mother's death. It's
usually the birthing process whether premature or not.
If it was a child who died it would give the child's parents' name
but not the grandparents. They are very explicit about the cause of
death, it could say murio de quemado (died as a result of burns) or
lo corno un toro,(was gored by a bull). You may not get much
information but I would say it's still worth your time to look at
these films. It provides a lens for viewing how people lived and died
in those times.
I imagine today we might have many death certificates that would say
died of AIDS or of drug overdose or car accident, breast cancer etc.
These films were useful to me because when I had viewed film and
extracted data from birth or baptism certificates I would ask mom
about a certain uncle and she once said I didn't have an uncle by
that name. I researched the death records and found the death
certificate, murio de ½ hora de nacido, mystery solved.
If you do view these films maybe you can give us a little insight
about your findings and the historical perspective. I hope this
helps..............Alicia Carrillo de San Jose, Ca
*/Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@...>/* wrote:
Can someone who has looked at films of parrish books listing burials
tell me how extensive the information listed in these books is?
Does
it list parents, survivors of the deceased? I have two particular
issues... one where I cannot connect an ancestor (Marcos LEMUS m.
Maria
Barbara YBARRA) to any one of his potential parents (children of a
Felipe LEMUS that was the grantee of the land where Marcos lived,
his
children were born, etc.). I cannot find a marriage or birth record
for him...
The other is that baptismal and marriage records for Jerez,
Zacatecas
seem to be missing for the crucial period at the end of the 17th and
beginning of the 18th century when many families moved from there to
Totatiche, Jalisco... so I am hoping that death records will make
the
connection.
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