alice wissing wrote:
Joseph,
Would you be willing to share the results of your
DNA test with the group?
absolutely, would be willing to, but I haven't quite
figured out how to
do that. let me think on it a bit. I've forwarded
this message to Gary
Felix with the question of how best I should share
my DNA results with a
group of people.
I'd like to know whether you felt it was worth the
money and trouble.
was it worth the money and trouble, well first it
was no trouble at all
unless you consider a slight scratching (no blood)
of the inside of your
cheek trouble. With regards to the money well I look
at that this way -
somebody had to go first so why not me. Heck a
thousand years from now I
plan on being a genealogical god. . .i figure
someone will be saying wow
that Joseph Puentes sure was a visionary to have
done all that genealogy
and his DNA testing to boot! Right now I have some
unique opportunities:
To collect Oral History before it dies out AND to
collect DNA before I
lose track of it. What do I mean by that?. . .well
for example on my
mom's side I have one brother of her's alive (an
uncle) that is
unwilling to give me a DNA sample. He had daughters
not sons (well I
heard he has sons from a previous marriage) and
after he dies I will
have lost that opportunity to trace the DNA of my
mom's fathers side. I
have done my dad's side through my YDNA and my mom's
mom's mom's (etc.)
side through my MtDNA. I know where I can get my
paternal grandmother's
DNA collected and will be trying to gather that
sometime soon. . . .I
guess what I'm getting at is that I intend on
forward tracing as many of
the surnames in my family as possible before I die
so I can find folks
alive today with that surname and "GROW" the family
that much more, BUT
also be able to collect DNA from them. Its a job
that must be done and I
would like to get as good a jump on it as I can. I
believe at sometime
in the future there will be a curious soul come
along like me and
continue the work. I think they will take my work
and advance it. Heck i
might find that as I forward trace the family I
might find others that
have greatly surpassed my work already. Some folks
don't realize that
forward tracing might be the answer to many a brick
wall.
Also, I haven't heard anybody out their brag about
their dark or short
relatives.
what are you talking about. . .didn't you read that
story I sent called
"Muchacha" (attached: also a picture of a very dark
and short Antonia
Santa Maria many years later). . .I am so proud of
my Indian Heritage I
could just weep when I think of how that heritage
was raped. I will
admit that I do very dearly love finding that next
older generation and
would like to be able to trace all the way to
Adam/Eve if it were
possible and when I find a dead end "Indio" branch
I'm only disappointed
because I know the "paper trail" will soon end, BUT
that has nothing at
all to do with a lack of pride of my browness. Heck
here in NC I could
pass as white. One day at the lunch table I was
chowing down on some
"Churches" chicken and one of the black ladies said
"hey Joseph white
foks don't eat Churches chicken" I told her strait -
"White's alright,
Black is beautiful, but if you're Brown stick
around! I'm not white." I
think I taught a Post Office full of fellow workers
that they should not
look on Mexicans as just "other" white folks.
The more I learn about Mexican history, the more
I value Indian
characteristics and view them as attractive.
me too! I wish I could find more about them all the
time. In fact just
this past weekend I found a real treasure in a used
book store. . ."Los
Huicholes" by Ramon Mata Torres. I think Alicia
Carrillo is right about
studying the "Caxcanes the Guachichiles and the
Huicholes." That might
be as close as we get to learning about our indian
roots (I'm sure there
were other Tribes as well during the different time
periods) . . .to
study about those groups in a general sense. In the
older Chihuahua
records I've seen where they ID Indios by the
specific tribe but it
seems that in Jalisco they were content to just say
Indio/India, I would
dearly like to find more specific info on which
tribe I am.
The study of my family's genealogy has made me
love and respect all
my relatives equally, regardless of whether they
turned out European,
Indian, black, or Asian looking.
Amen. . .and the name makes no never mind as well.
.. .its the blood in
our veins that counts and that blood crosses all
barriers.
In fact, the variety in their appearance serves
to remind me just
how mixed a race we are.
there are no pure breds out there. . .I'd love to
see a DNA test showing
a straight up no mix person. . .not possible!
I hope there are others who feel the same way.
you said it right!
Alicia
ps: Sylvia, please do post your Los Altos Lamb
recipe. . .give us the
history as far as where you think it might have come
from. Seems that
someone in the family had to be the first to cook
it. . .could have been
your parents or grandparents or even further back.
Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
Sylvia,
welcome to the group. . .look don't let me
bother you too much
about the deadline. If April 15 approaches and
you are not ready
just email me directly (makas@...) let
me know you are not
ready and how much more time you'll need and
you will be "spared"
the savageness of my axe swing. I'm trying to
be reasonable and
give people extra time if needed. then again
some never
communicate and won't submit and they of
course will only feel my
wrath come April 15th.
joseph
ps: about the virus thing you mentioned. .
.one word: garlic; ajo.
If you have an interest in what i'm talking
about I can share how
it will help you fight future bouts with the
more typical virus'
people comfront.
pps: cool message from Egypt to Yucatan to
Zacatecas.
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