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Re: [ranchos] Historical facts from records


 
Hello Erlinda,  uses in human behavior derive from need;. families would be clans in the early days of settlements. Padrinos had to be members of the clan, temples woud be maybe days on foot or horse riding, so preventing the death or a new born every catolic cristian have the virtue to act as a baptism provider, afterwards the priest would aknowledge and confirm that baptism. and  yes there were slaves, clans with slaves. My ancestors were clans,  and intermarried relatives  on and on, so nowadays many carry on the same surnames. Just a reality based thought.  Leticia Leon
 
Erlinda Castanon-Long <longsjourney@...> escribió:
I'm working on baptism and marriage records for my Gutierrez and
Alvares del Castillo families who lived in Tamazula Jalisco from
1760's to my grandmothers departer to the states in 1923.  I found
them in Chilchota Michoacan  before that going back to about 1620 or
so including the maternal lines Morfin, Valencia and Lievana. In
this town I've found 3 different lines of Gutierrez.  Gutierrez de
Raya, Gutierrez de Robles and just plain Gutierrez, my line with
intermarriages with the other two Gutierrez families.  My line of
Gutierrez are Mestiso with the other two being Espanol.

I'm finding in the records facts that I hadn't seen before and was
wondering if others have encountered them in other states too.  I'm
find exclavos Espanoles, that was something I had not encountered
before.  How would a Spaniard end up a slave?  Another finding is
how many babies were baptised at home by a regular person when they
were afraid the baby was going to die or in danger and then later
recorded by the church. Another thing I found was home marriages,
usually the home of the bride or groom. One more custom which the
group helped me understand was the females taking their mothers
surname while the males took the father surname.  I've even found
records where the females use their grandmothers surname making
finding families a real challenge. I've also noticed in the records
that the person writing the record frequently has his mother, sister
or himself as the witness or patrino. They were usually not from the
town simply appearing with their families in the records for long
periods of time.  Were they emloyees of the church or the city?

Sometimes doing records brings as many questions as answers.  I have
found that many of the people from this area of Michoacan including
the towns of Tangancicuaro and Tlasasalca moved to Jalisco.  Im my
Gutierrez families case they went to the Periban area by 1780 then
on to Ranchos de los Palos Altos, on to Atoyac then Ciudad
Gusman/Zapotlan El Grande and then on to Zapotiltic and Tamazula by
1792 where the first marriage record appears .  Following their
journey has been very hard with so much moving in such a short time
period. Unfortunately finding Mestisos, Mulatos and Indio's is much
harder than following Espanol families so I think I've gone as far
back as I can on the Gutierrez line.... so on to finding the Espanol
Morfin and Valencia lines.. I think genealogy is addictive and the
journey never ending.....
I'm looking forward to hearing your shares on what you've found in
records that was unusual or informative.
Linda in Everett







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