Re: Introduction of new member

["Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@...>]

I think this is your grandfather and your great-grandmother, 
Michael.  Looks like your search will end up being in Fresnillo and 
Jerez, Zacatecas.

Ramon Gonzales  
  Male   Family 
Event(s): 
 Birth:  31 AUG 1891   Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, 
Mexico 
 Christening:  
 Death:  31 OCT 1969    
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  Victor Gonzales  Family 
  Mother:  Luisa Ayala     
Marriages: 
  Marriage:  03 JUL 1919   Anaheim, , , California 
 
Luisa Ayala  
  Female     
Event(s): 
 Birth:  25 AUG 1869   Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico 
 Christening:  
 Death:  02 SEP 1919    
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  Jose Maria Ayala  Family 
  Mother:  Serapia Reyes Medina  


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> 
wrote:
> Victor:
> 
> Was your grandfather's mother's last name Ayala?  If so this may be 
a 
> good start for your search from the IGI database.  You can try 
> looking up one of these baptismal records and see if the 
grandparent 
> names match.  No luck on finding Rancho San Justo, but the resource 
> you are referencing is available online: 
> 
> http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm
> 
> Victor Gonzales  
>   Male   Family 
> Event(s): 
>  Birth:  06 MAR 1855   Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, 
> Mexico 
>  Christening:  
>  Death:  30 JUL 1934    
>  Burial:  
> Marriages: 
>   Spouse:  Luisa Ayala  Family 
>   Marriage:  About 1880   , Zacatecas, Mexico 
> 
> Luisa Ayala  
>   Female   Family 
> Event(s): 
>  Birth:  25 AUG 1869   Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico 
>  Christening:  
>  Death:  02 SEP 1919    
> 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "ftworthtexgonzales" 
> <TexGonzales@m...> wrote:
> > Hi Ranchos Group Members,
> > 
> > I am Michael Gonzales and have a strong interest in the Gonzales, 
> > Ayala, Calleros and Lucero lines in Zacatecas, Mexico on my
> > father's side and the Ayala, Zamora, Ortiz and Moreno lines in 
> > Michoacan, Mexico on my mother's side.  I was born in California
> > and 
> > am a transplant to Texas.  Most of my family is still in 
> California, 
> > up and down the coast.
> > 
> > I mainly use the LDS Family History Centers and the INS non-
> > statistical records for Mexican border crossings in the 1912-20 
> > timeframes.  I also us the US Census records for family 
> > identifications in the 1920-30 period.
> > 
> > I am trying to find my paternal grandfather's birth or baptismal 
> > records (Ramon Gonzales-31 August 1891).  I have birth 
> registrations 
> > for two of his brothers (Francisco and Julian) who were born in 
> > Rancho San Justo, Zacatecas, Mex, but nothing yet on my Paternal 
> > grandfather, Ramon.  I have not yet tried to look up records on 
my 
> > great grandfather Victor Gonzales or my great grandmother Luisa.  
> > I'm hoping to find any reference to where they were born and
> > their ages at the time of birth of Ramon or his brothers and 
sister 
> > so I don't get lost in a great chase.  The only thing I see in
> > Julian
> > and Francisco's birth registration is the names of the parents
> > (Victor and Luisa) and grandparents (Abraham and Bonifacia).  
They 
> > don't contain info on where they (parents or grandparents) were 
> > born.  It does make reference to La Vicaria de la Hacienda de 
> > Obrega.  Anyone have info on that Hacienda?
> > 
> > I found a great resource in a book I ordered through my local LDS 
> > Family History Center.  It's entitled "Diccionario
> > Biográfico y 
> > Geográfico", film numbers 1102587 and 1102588.  It was
> > published in 
> > about 1891 and contains loads of information about towns and 
names 
> > that were of that time period.  It has some info on ranchos, but 
> > only general names.  For example, I could not find Rancho San 
Justo 
> > alphabetically, but I didn't look for others to see if by chance 
> > others might be listed.  I have it on permanent loan and have 
found 
> > it to be quite valuable as I go back into the 1800s .
> > 
> > Anyway, searching for my ancestors has been an exciting journey.  
> > Maybe I can get some help from this group.  Please see my 
> > website "AyalaGonzalesFamiilia" (run words together)under
> > Yahoo 
> > Groups.  I have several stories there about the lines I have been 
> > researching.
> > 
> > Michael Gonzales