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ArchdioceseFormationInfo:I need a geographic history lesson ...


 
Well I'm not sure I understand it all but here is a quote from Dr. Lyman Platt's book, "Mexico, General Guide: Ecclesiastical Divisions." Lots of details in the book:

Archdiocese of Guadalajara

The diocese of Compostela was erected on July 31, 1548 with its seat at the city of Compostela. It was also known by the name of Nueva Galicia. In 1552, the seat was transferred to Guadalajara and from that time forth it became known at the Bishopric of Guadalajara.
     The territory of the diocese was vast and not totally known. As the colonization progressed towards the north, all newly discovered areas were assigned to the diocese. It first comprised what is the modern state of Jalisco minus the two cantons of Zapotlan and La Barcas near Lake Chapala (which it did not acquire until near the end of the XVIII century). It also included the modern states of Sinaloa, Nayarit, Durango, Sonora, Chihuahua, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, and Coahuila and at discovery all of Nuevo Reino de Leon, Saltillo, Texas, Nuevo Santander, Nuevo Mexico, Californias, and all the northern territories that were not well determined.
     In Guadalajara, the seat of the archbishopric, there was one Spanish parish and two Indian parishes.
     During the colonial period only Guardiana (Durango) was separated from Guadalajara as a bishopric. This occurred on October 11, 1620. This new bishopric was extremely necessary. The bishop of Guadalajara, don fray Juan del Valle and the licentiate Pedro de Otarola, president of the Audiencia of Nueva Galicia, in accordance with the royal decree dated Madrid, June 14,  1621, described the initial limits of the new diocese, and for that reason limited Guadalajara as follows: the dividing line between the two bishoprics ran Acaponeta (State of Nayarit) to Nieves (Zacatecas), Parras (Coahuila), and towards the northeast in an undefined line. Shortly after the accord, the two gentlemen mentioned agreed that the line should terminate at the hacienda de San Francisco de los Patos (today General Cepeda, near Parras), and that the Diocese of Guadalajara would continue to be responsible for Saltillo and its jurisdiction, and all of the Nuevo Reino de Leon. The limits to the north in both the Diocese of Guadalajara and Durango, were unknown and no one could say with precision whether it ended at the Bravo River or at the Gila River or at some other point."16

16 Mariano, cuevas, Historia de la Iglesia en Mexico, 5th ed., 5 vols. (Mexico, DF: Editorial Patria, 1946), volume 3 (1600-1699), pages 120-121

Diocese of Aguascalientes

This diocese was organized August 27, 1899 being taken from territory belonging formerly to the Archdiocese of Guadalajara. It comprised the State of Aguascalientes, the parish of Villa Garcia in Zacatecas, and several parishes from the northern part of the the State of Jalisco.

Diocese of Zacatecas

This diocese was formed January 26, 1862 from the Archbishopric of Guadalajara. The following year the Holy See decreed an annexation of the region called Huicholes, inhabited by that tribe. The diocese comprised most of the State of Zacatecas, only the parishes of the northeast belonging to the Diocese of Durango, a few in the extreme south belonging to Guadalajara, and Villa Garcia belonging to Aguascalientes. A few parishes in the diocese belonged civilly to the State of Jalisco. 18

Lyman D. Platt, Una Guia Genealogico-Historica de Latinoamerica (Ramona, California: Acoma Books, 1978),  pages 94-95; Cuevas, op. cit., page 527.

Natalie wrote:
or an historical geography lesson (not sure which), and I'm not sure 
where/how to find the information. My question is - were Jalisco and 
Zacatecas established at the same time as political jurisdictions, or 
was one a part of the other first? If so, when were they separated?
Any clues or sources greatly appreciated. Mil gracias.

Natalie in VA





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