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Re: [ranchos] Alicia and the prieshood records of the church

 
Jose Luis,
 
I'm sorry, I did not even think of that but as we all now know it's very possible and I'm sure you're right there will not be any formal church records. As we all know in the early Catholic Church the church was very powerful. For that and for many other reasons Mexico had the Cristero Rebellion. My mom and aunts tell stories about how dominant the parish priests were to the point of naming the children. Mom said that when I was born she took me to have me registered because my dad was in El Norte and the priest told her that my name should be Juana and that it could not be Alicia because my name was not the name of a saint. Mom said she told the priest well there is now a new saint and it's Alicia and she will be named Alicia.
 
Yesterday while perusing records for baptisms I came across about 6 months worth of baptisms where all the children were named Guadalupe both male and female and this was in 1932. It was Jose Guadalupe, Maria Guadalupe, Tomas Guadalupe, Mariana Guadalupe and so on. Every single record regardless of the other name had Guadalupe and that made me remember what mom had told me, that the priests had a lot of power in the community.
 
Does anyone know if this had any special significance to that particular year in the Catholic Church. Could it have been the year of the Virgen de Guadalupe?
 
Alicia Carrillo...........San Jose, Ca

zendean <usa20@...> wrote:
Alicia;  I think your question about if there are records of the births of children born to priests and nuns is brilliant !  I can imagine that there probably are no formal records unless they were entered as part of the normal birth/christaning of the Parish. Then they would use their own given names instead of the names taken as part of the new life they became when they took their vows.
   I do remember achialogists finding the remains (bones) of new borns in the catacombs benieth some churches in France. Human nature is what it is, and the practice of putting newborns to die down there must have been hard for the nuns, but necessary.  Ergo, as you postulated, it may have been that they had them baptized before abandoning them. There are catacombs beneigth many catherials in Mexico and your theory does have merit. It could also be that some of the "Hijo natural" entries were actually babies born to the local clergy and brought at their request by a parishoner.
   I would be most interested in what the other members have to say.  Again, what an interesting and brilliant question. Really.
 
Yours truly,
 
 
Jose Luis Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: Alicia Carrillo
Sent: Aug 25, 2005 9:44 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Church Records

Does anyone know of any records that can be accessed to see if someone has gone either into the priesthood or to be a nun. Stories I have heard about numerous relations that were priests and nuns have led me to want to look for these records.
 
Any help would be appreciated......................Alicia Carrillo, San Jose Ca


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