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Re: [ranchos] La Catrina

 


David P. Delgado wrote:


Emilie,

As I remember, Posada created a caricature of the overdressed upper class types in 19th Century Mexico.  El Catrin = "dandy" and la Catrina is the feminine form of the word.  La Catrina was a person but a generic stereotype.  Posada did not intend the caricature to be a complimentary one.The only other people I heard use the word "catrin" were the pachucos in the late 1940's and the early '50's.  They used it to describe someone who was dressed up and looked "sharp".  I grew up in Southern Cal and saw many pachucos including family members.
man did the pachucos dress sharp!!! My uncle was one and I can remember his cool threads. I was young and never understood but did the pachucos hang together as gangs? Or were they all individuals? Did the "pachuco movement" ever cross the border? Are there gangs in Mexico now. . .as in the types of gangs we see in US now? 

curious minds need to know,

joseph



David in Albany, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: "Steve G. Apodaca" <sgapodaca@...>
Sent: Jul 5, 2005 4:12 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] La Catrina

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Here is a link to the picture of La Catrina<BR>
<BR>
<a href="http://muertos.palomar.edu/posada/skelhat.JPG";>http://muertos.palomar.edu/posada/skelhat.JPG</a><BR>
<BR>
There are several of Posada's drawings in the following page. Just <BR>
scroll down to &quot;Calaveras&quot;<BR>
<BR>
<a href="http://muertos.palomar.edu/posdad.htm";>http://muertos.palomar.edu/posdad.htm</a><BR>
<BR>
Steve.<BR>
OC,CA<BR>
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--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, &quot;Emilie Garcia&quot; <BR>
&lt;auntyemfaustus@h...&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; Ok, now, who is La Catrina?&nbsp; Even my husband, who was more into <BR>
the culture until the age of 12 in El Paso, doesn't know either.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Emilie Garcia<BR>
&gt; Port Orchard, WA<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>
&gt; From: Natalie<BR>
&gt; Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 4:38 AM<BR>
&gt; To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com<BR>
&gt; Subject: [ranchos] Dia de los Muertos<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; I don't remember &quot;celebrating&quot; this holiday as a youngster (in <BR>
the&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; 40's &amp; 50's), either. And it is only in the last 10-15 yrs that I&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; have been exposed to this custom.<BR>
&gt; In the past two years the Smithsonian has had public programs for&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; DDLM, (one day affairs) with music (strolling mariachi), dance,&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; displays, and crafts.<BR>
&gt; The Mexican Cultural Institute (Washington, DC), in the building <BR>
that&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; formerly housed the Embassy of Mexico, have hosted a DDLM exhibit <BR>
the&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; past 3 yrs - with a magnificent altar in their blue &amp; white tiled <BR>
sun&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; room, reception, and music. Last year there was even a woman <BR>
dressed&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; as La Catrina.<BR>
&gt; About 6 or 7 yrs ago I began putting up an altar in my yard (then&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; moved it to the porch). I would put it up a day or two before&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; Halloween - so trick or treaters would get an education when they&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; came for their treats. I deviated from the standard of <BR>
remembering&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; and honor family members by remembering friends and family who <BR>
had&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; died in the previous 12 months - I would just post a list. I got <BR>
a&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; lot of ideas online on how to set it up. It has evolved over the&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; years. Now my two oldest grand-children (ages 5 &amp; 3) look forward <BR>
to&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; helping me set up the altar. As they grow older maybe they will <BR>
have&nbsp; <BR>
&gt; an understanding of honoring the antepasados.<BR>
&gt; Thanks to all for sharing the cemetery memories - very informative.<BR>
&gt; Happy Fourth! * * * (fireworks!)<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Natalie<BR>
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