Re: [ranchos] Alberto Duarte and the St. Xavier catholic church in El Paso

[Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...>]

St. Xavier is near the Alameda and Piasano streets
that are just west of Washington Park.  Most of the
old homes have been torn down (probably because the
area was becoming a slum area).  Nearby, there is a 6
lane bridge crossing over to Juarez.  From the bridge
you can see St. Xavier. 

Most of people that lived in the St. Xavier church
area were originally from Chihuahua, such as my
mother's family, and many were from Zacatecas/Durango,
such as my father's family.  The great majority of the
people were very poor, but their sons and daughters
eventually made the core of our great generation--hard
working, outstanding citizens.  Many of the second
generation want on to become doctors, lawyers,
engineers, actors (Antony Quinn, Gilbert Roland),
teachers, politicians, war heros, and athletics (Ted
Williams mother was from there).

The next generation will even be greater!

Alberto.



--- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:

> Where is St. Xavier's?  I don't recall ever hearing
> the name.  I used 
> to go to Sacred Heart and then after we moved when I
> was 8 to Little 
> Flower (over by Lakeside Shopping Center) and
> finally to St. Joseph's 
> which was the closest Catholic church near our house
> when we lived near 
> 5 points.  Don't y'all just love this conversation? 
> I do!  Marge:)
> On Jun 29, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Alberto Duarte wrote:
> 
> > Jose, you can probably find or contact your Macias
> >  clan members in El Paso if you go to the old
> >  neighborhood and search for them. 
> >
> >  Your grandfather was probably well know in the
> old
> >  barrio.  My uncle Jesus Duarte still lives in
> the old
> >  barrio and he probably knew some of your
> relatives.
> >
> >  As far as finding your Macias family in
> Zacatecas, you
> >  can find them if you have a plan.  I found many
> of my
> >  Duarte ancestors by tracing them them from
> Mapimi,
> >  Durango, to Jerez, Zacatecas, and eventually, to
> other
> >  parts of Zacatecas.  In fact, I believe my
> >  greatggggfather was probably the patriarch of the
> >  Duarte clan in Zacatecas!
> >
> >  Use the Mormon library to gather your
> genealogical
> >  information.  Get a microfiche copy of all the
> Macias
> >  in Zacatecas and start researching them one by
> one,
> >  starting with those with the same first and last
> name
> >  of your grandfather's. 
> >
> >  Don't over look any Macias, no matter what part
> of
> >  Zacatecas they came from.  Believe me, the
> chance of
> >  you being related to them is very good. 
> >
> >  Good luck.
> >
> >  Also, please let me know if I can help you in any
> way.
> >
> >  --- zendean <usa20@...> wrote:
> >
> >  Albeto.
> >
> >  > Alberto;
> >  >
> >  >     What an interesting memory!  My
> Grandparents,
> >  > (Feliciano and Rosa
> >  > Macias) donated the land to the church on which
> St.
> >  > Xavier Catholic church
> >  > was built. Most of my aunts and uncles were
> married
> >  > there. I was looking for
> >  > a relative and found the name in the records of
> >  > marriage there. My Aunt
> >  > Aurora told me that it was not surprising and
> that I
> >  > would find her and her
> >  > sisters there also. That was news to me.
> >  >
> >  >Â Â Â Â  My grandparents lived and died there in
> El Paso.
> >  > My Macias line starts
> >  > there for me and it was nice to see your entry
> about
> >  > that area. My dad,
> >  > Felix Macias, met and married my mom here in
> Los
> >  > Angeles. I have never been
> >  > to El Paso, though most all of my branch of the
> >  > Macias line still lives
> >  > there. I don't know where my El Paso relatives
> live
> >  > there and know no one
> >  > there that could tell me where to look. I have
> a
> >  > brick wall where it comes
> >  > to my great grand father -Francisco Macias
> because
> >  > he is from somewhere in
> >  > Zacatecas. He had a ranch/farm there and that
> is all
> >  > my aunt Aurora could
> >  > remember from her childhood.
> >  >
> >  >Â Â Â Â  Anyway, I liked reading your
> recollections and
> >  > hope you will respond to
> >  > my posting. I do extraction of records for our
> >  > church and have little time
> >  > lately to trace my family. As soon as I finish
> the
> >  > 4,000 + names to be
> >  > extracted, I will start again. I am thinking
> that if
> >  > I pay $500 to the
> >  > company called Legacy in Utah that I may get
> some
> >  > good help and direction.
> >  > Have you heard of them ? If so, what did you
> hear ?
> >  >
> >  > For now, good hunting and I wish you happiness.
> >  >
> >  > Jose Luis Macias
> >  >
> >  > ----- Original Message -----
> >  > From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...>
> >  > To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
> >  > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:39 AM
> >  > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Pinole
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > >
> >  > > We lived in a one room apartment near
> Washington
> >  > Park,
> >  > > across the street from St. Xavier Catholic
> church.
> >  > > The apartment was a dump (dirt floors) with
> the
> >  > > bathroom aside shared with other tenants. We
> were
> >  > a
> >  > > very poor family, there were six of us
> counting my
> >  > > grandmother.
> >  > >
> >  > > El Paso at that time offered zero
> opportunities
> >  > for
> >  > > Mexican-Americans, so my dad moved all of us
> the
> >  > Los
> >  > > Angeles. There were many families from El
> Paso
> >  > that
> >  > > moved to Los Angeles back in the early '40s,
> >  > including
> >  > > one by the name of Antony Quinn who later won
> a
> >  > couple
> >  > > of Oscars-you see, we can make it if only
> given
> >  > the
> >  > > opportunity.
> >  > >
> >  > > Alberto.
> >  > > --- Margarita Vallazza
> <TeaCozyGran@...>
> >  > wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > >> Where did you live in El Paso at that
> time?  I
> >  > lived
> >  > >> across from Sacred
> >  > >> Heart Church and School for the first 8
> years of
> >  > my
> >  > >> life.  As a kid, I
> >  > >> hated going across the border because it was
> so
> >  > >> unfamiliar to be and
> >  > >> because of all the noise, the exotic odors,
> the
> >  > >> beggars, and the
> >  > >> language.  I was always afraid, although no
> one
> >  > >> would have harmed me
> >  > >> but that's how I was then.  Now, I can
> appreciate
> >  > >> everything about it,
> >  > >> including the interesting architecture. 
> Marge:)
> >  > >>
> >  > >> On Jun 27, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Alberto Duarte
> >  > wrote:
> >  > >>
> >  > >> > Good and sad times:
> >  > >> >Â  We also went to the Marcado in Juarez
> back in
> >  > the
> >  > >> >Â  early '50s.Ã? My mom would buy dry goods
> which
> 
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