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Re: [ranchos] Alberto Duarte and the St. Xavier catholic church in El Paso

 
Alberto;
What an interesting memory! My Grandparents, (Feliciano and Rosa Macias) donated the land to the church on which St. Xavier Catholic church was built. Most of my aunts and uncles were married there. I was looking for a relative and found the name in the records of marriage there. My Aunt Aurora told me that it was not surprising and that I would find her and her sisters there also. That was news to me.
My grandparents lived and died there in El Paso. My Macias line starts there for me and it was nice to see your entry about that area. My dad, Felix Macias, met and married my mom here in Los Angeles. I have never been to El Paso, though most all of my branch of the Macias line still lives there. I don't know where my El Paso relatives live there and know no one there that could tell me where to look. I have a brick wall where it comes to my great grand father -Francisco Macias because he is from somewhere in Zacatecas. He had a ranch/farm there and that is all my aunt Aurora could remember from her childhood.
Anyway, I liked reading your recollections and hope you will respond to my posting. I do extraction of records for our church and have little time lately to trace my family. As soon as I finish the 4,000 + names to be extracted, I will start again. I am thinking that if I pay $500 to the company called Legacy in Utah that I may get some good help and direction. Have you heard of them ? If so, what did you hear ? 

For now, good hunting and I wish you happiness.

Jose Luis Macias
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...> 
To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Pinole




We lived in a one room apartment near Washington Park,
across the street from St. Xavier Catholic church.
The apartment was a dump (dirt floors) with the
bathroom aside shared with other tenants. We were a
very poor family, there were six of us counting my
grandmother.

El Paso at that time offered zero opportunities for
Mexican-Americans, so my dad moved all of us the Los
Angeles. There were many families from El Paso that
moved to Los Angeles back in the early '40s, including
one by the name of Antony Quinn who later won a couple
of Oscars-you see, we can make it if only given the
opportunity.

Alberto.
--- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:


Where did you live in El Paso at that time?  I lived
across from Sacred
Heart Church and School for the first 8 years of my
life.  As a kid, I
hated going across the border because it was so
unfamiliar to be and
because of all the noise, the exotic odors, the
beggars, and the
language.  I was always afraid, although no one
would have harmed me
but that's how I was then.  Now, I can appreciate
everything about it,
including the interesting architecture.  Marge:)

On Jun 27, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Alberto Duarte wrote:

> Good and sad times:
>  We also went to the Marcado in Juarez back in the
>  early '50s. My mom would buy dry goods which
were
>  really expensive for us to buy in the United
States
>  (Los Angeles). Would you believe that we also
>  purchased young parrots and smuggled them across
to El
>  Paso! Later on this turned out to be a sad
>  remembrance for me, when I found out that
thousands,
>  maybe millions, of the these beautiful birds were
>  wiped out of the rain forests in Mexico, just
because
>  of greed and ignorance.
>
>  Alberto.
>
>  --- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...>
wrote:
>
>  > When I was a kid, we would cross the border
into
>  > Juarez with my aunts
>  > and mother to go shopping at the Mercado, and
one of
>  > the merchants had
>  > a display of pinole. It was sold in paper
>  > cones--sometimes piÃf±ata-type
>  > paper and sometimes newspaper. I liked
it...didn't
>  > get it too often,
>  > though. Marge:)
>  > On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Irma GomezLucero
>  > wrote:
>  >
>  > > Ã, Pinole is great with a little milk--sort
of a
>  > mush.Ã, Love it for
>  > > breakfast.Ã, Has anyone heard the
following
>  > expression:
>  > >
>  > > Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, El que tiene mas
saliva, come mas
>  > pinole.
>  > >
>  > >Â Sorry didn't use accents even after the
flood of
>  > emails on the
>  > > subject.Ã, My
>  > >Â engineer and architect cousins from Mexico
D.F.
>  > don't either in their
>  > >Â letters to me. When asked about this, they
>  > responded that they knew
>  > > how to
>  > >Â pronounce the words without the accents,
etc.,
>  > >
>  > >Â -----Original Message-----
>  > >Â From: lrapido [mailto:1gnzlz@...]
>  > >Â Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:35 PM
>  > >Â To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>  > >Â Subject: [ranchos] Pinole
>  > >
>  > >Â Talking about food...
>  > >Â I wonder how many of our members have heard
of
>  > "Pinole" ? Pinole is a
>  > > high
>  > >Â energy food made from dry roasted corn
ground-up
>  > and mixed with brown
>  > > sugar
>  > >Â (Piloncillo, o panocha) and cinnamon and
>  > sometimes either lemon or
>  > > orange
>  > >Â peel for flavoring. The Tarahumara indians
of
>  > Chihuahua use it as a
>  > > staple
>  > >Â food. Tarahumaras are basically
vegetarians, with
>  > meat accounting for
>  > > about
>  > >Â less than 10% of their diet. They eat
Pinole it
>  > or drink it ( can be
>  > > mixed
>  > >Â with water or ? ) before they run the ultra
>  > marathons.Ã, Pinole is a
>  > > very
>  > >Â convinient high energy food because in its
powder
>  > form can keep for
>  > > months.
>  > >Â It is carried in a pouch during long trips
and is
>  > used to sometimes
>  > > replace
>  > >Â whole meals. The Tarahumaras are
universally
>  > known as runners.
>  > > Tarahumaras
>  > >Â have run the 100 mile marathon from Nevada
to
>  > California.Ã, They think
>  > >Â nothing of running 50 miles or more to go
visit
>  > friends or relatives
>  > > in a
>  > > distant village.Ã, When was the last time
you did
>  > that!
>  > >Â They hunt by running animals until the
animal
>  > gets tired and gives
>  > > up. That
>  > >Â includes deer, rabbits and whatever animal
they
>  > choose to chase.
>  > >Â Pinole is very sweet and very tasty. Try
it, next
>  > time you go to
>  > > Mexico, or
>  > >Â better yet, make your own! In Mexico it is
sold
>  > at just about any
>  > > grocery
>  > >Â store, kids love it, just make sure you
plan a
>  > high energy activity
>  > > for
>  > >Â them. If you are runner or into high energy
>  > sports, you should give
>  > > it a
>  > >Â try.
>  > >
>  > >Â John Gonzalez
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
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