Thanks Joseph, That is a wonderful idea you suggested about doing a poster board with pictures, etc. I do have a beautifully framed hand-painted coat of arms for the OLAGUE surname that I brought back with me from Spain years ago that I intend to present to him if and when he cooperates. I would never expect anyone to pay for taking a Y DNA test at my request. I would also offer an extra monetary bribe if that is what it takes. My Basque friend here had told me about a village outside of Pamplona where she came from in Navarra, Spain, called Olague, so we went there. It was so nice, and the people were so nice. They had bright blue eyes just like my father described The tiny village was lovely, with cobble-stoned streets and an ancient bell-tower under which the cows passed on their way home (all by themselves) from the pastures when it was milking time. They had quaint barns, and hay-stacks, but they also had nice homes with brand-new cars and TV's. When we passed by the village square, we saw young men dressed in white with red berets and red scarves around their necks; they were involved in some kind of game with huge logs. It was a festival of some kind. I will always remember that. I will continue to try to get this cousin interested. Unfortunately, we grew up on opposite sides of town, and we differ in education, interests, etc. We now live so far away. He still lives in Silicon Valley where we retired from, and we are up here in Washington State. His family thought my mother was "farsante". (She did want to keep us far away from those who were shiftless or lived "la vida loca"). They were not ambitious like she was, not in the least. He may be a luckless fellow, since his mother said of him "pobrecito mijo". We'll see. Everybody please pray that he come around. Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Puentes Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:43 PM To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ranchos] Olague DNA
Emilie Garcia wrote:
Yes, like Marge and Santos, I lament the fact that I will miss out on the Y-DNA testing, since my father died in 1966, and my grandfather in 1941. My father had no brothers, and I had no brothers. His male Olague first cousins are gone also. My only hope is to try to convince a son of a first cousin of my father's who bears the Olague surname. Ask the Mom to talk to the son. Try and convince her of its importance. Maybe come at it from the perspective that it will be a way to always remember their dad.
how about get up a picture of the dad and make up a real nice frame with a 5 x 7 picture of the dad in one 1/4 of the frame. in the next 1/4 of the frame a 8 x 11 tree chart tracing the father back however far you have him. in one other 1/4 of the frame a simple "genealogy report" and then leave the last 1/4 blank which will "one day" include the Dad's DNA results once the son agrees to submit them for testing.
Give the picture and partially complete frame to the mom and ask her to talk to the son. When they see all your hard work how could the son say no. Well he might say no to the $100 part. Any way you can take up a collection if this is the real issue?
just some thoughts from one who was also call a "tarugo" from time to time, menso too, oh and some choice other words when I "really really" got mom mad,
joseph
So far, he has been less than willing to even me! et me. He simply stated that he knows nothing about family histo ry and family trees (I tried to get him interested by telling him the family history and that I have a family tree going back to the 1700's). He changed his number once, I got his new number from his mother, and he has not returned my calls. I will not only have to pay for the test, but bribe him big time to get his cooperation. Maybe even that won't work. I am very disappointed that this testing came after my father passed on, but then I wasn't interested in genealogy like I am now. Santos, I will try to see what Mr. Bennet Greenspan has to say. I trust him and his Family Tree DNA project, since it was started for Jews who do not play "Gato por Oso" about something so important to their culture. This is their life, who they are, who they have been for thousands of years The Family Tree DNA tests are very reasonably priced at $100.00 for a 12 Marker Y DNA test. (Tests with more markers can always ! be done later from the same samples submitted). Years ago a university lab in Oregon was charging $3,000 for such tests.
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