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Well yes a couple. We live in a wonderous time when sources for
genealogy research are plentiful. It used to be that the only way
people could do their research was by traveling to the area or
requesting info from the area via the Postal System. With the great
information we have from the LDS system our opportunities are
tremendously increased for having success in finding info in a way that
is convenient to our lifestyles. All that being said I'd like to say a
couple of things with regards to what is available via the LDS system
and outside the LDS system:
1) they have a fabulous collection of books available only at their
central location, but some are on fiche/microfilm. They do take
requests to microfilm books but this can more often than not be
unsuccessful since they need to get the authors permission before doing
so.
2) As we know they have a tremendous amount of films that have been
transcribed with the information put into the various databases: IGI,
etc.
3) they have even a greater amount of films available that have not
been transcribed so if you don't find the info on the thier webpage it
doesn't mean that its not on a films available for that area [don't
forget that even if your exact area doesn't have films available maybe
the next closest town is where your relatives took their children to be
baptized and married].
4) there is probably a very large amount of material from the
particular churches that did give permission to microfilm that didn't
get microfilmed. I might be wrong but I think I read somewhere that
primary documents [baptisms, marriages, deaths, matrimonial info,
census, confirmation both in church records and vital records] were the
emphasis of the LDS's microfilming efforts. Maybe some others can
comment on this as I might be wrong. But it seems that there was a lot
of information generated by a large congregation in 200 years and to
have all of that info microfilmed might have generated many many more
films than we see are available for each location. I said all that to
say that even if we don't find a film for that information it might not
be a bad idea to start establishing a repoire with your local church in
the homeland. Contact them by phone or mail maybe make some small
donations before you request records. maybe on the second contact after
they see you are serious about helping out some you can ask for info
about the church and what "other" records might be available.
5) there are churches that didn't have their records microfilmed at
all. I would love to find a list of what churches didn't get
microfilmed. How can we find or generate such a list? Maybe if your
particular church doesn't have films available you could contact the
church and ask them what info is available from them directly and
report back so we can add your findings to our database.
6) aside from churches and municipalities that didn't get their
records microfilmed there are many many many sources of information
that needs to be checked before one could say that "records don't
exist." Archives both in Mexico and Spain. Universities close to your
target area. . .I'd love to go to Guadalajara as I understand they have
a large Archive and University there. There is much much info that we
haven't thought about that needs to be investigated. . .possibly court
records. wills. land records. notary records. etc. etc. etc.
7) there is a tremendous amount of information about Mexico in US
Archives and Universities. For Chihuahua you'll find a lot at the UTEP
and UNewMex. There is a lot of information on Jalisco at Cal Berkeley.
There is a book called, "The Hispanic Experience in North America" by
Lawrence A. Clayton that I haven't read but it appears to have a lot of
resources for info on Mexico in the US. Here are a few of the 279
locations where it is available.
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| Title: |
The Hispanic experience in North America :
sources for study in the United States / |
| Author(s): |
Clayton,
Lawrence A. |
| Publication: |
Columbus :
Ohio State University Press, |
| Year: |
1992 |
| Description: |
vii, 189 p.
: ill. ; 24 cm. |
| Language: |
English |
| Contents: |
The
state of Spanish manuscript collections in the United States / Laura
Gutiérrez-Witt -- Spain's archival materials available in United States
institutions : the Library of Congress survey of photographic
reproductions / Guadalupe Jiménez-Codinach -- Documents of the Spanish
southeast borderlands at the University of Florida / Michael V. Gannon
-- Sources in private and little-used archives in Spain / Eugene Lyon
-- The National Union Catalog of manuscript collections : from the
printed volume to on-line data base / Harriet Ostroff -- The National
Union Catalog of manuscript collections and Hispanic manuscripts / Alan
Virta -- The Spanish experience in the United States : sources of
archives and reproduction of documents in Spain / Pedro González --
Research. Research on the eastern Spanish borderlands / Charles Hudson
-- Research in the western Spanish borderlands : on-site and
out-of-site / John L. Kessell -- Projects. Indian traders of the
southeastern Spanish borderlands : a Spanish, French, and English
documentary project / William S. Coker.
(cont.) The Cuban Papers
Project and the National Endowment for the Humanities / Paul E. Hoffman
-- "Ain't no road to Candelaria" : the new world archives-- a dream in
the desert / Charles W. Polzer -- Alabama and the De Soto expedition :
a case study in archival opportunity / Douglas E. Jones -- The
Southeastern Columbus Quincentennial Project / Michael C. Scardaville
-- Technology. The General Archive of the Indies project / José Luis
Becerril, Miguel Latasa, Margarita Vázquez De Parga -- Recommendations.
A history and personal memoir of the project to prepare a guide to
Latin American source materials in the United States / John Jay Tepaske. |
| Standard No: |
ISBN:
0814205682 (alk. paper) LCCN: 91-39274 |
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SUBJECT(S) |
| Descriptor: |
Spaniards
-- United States -- History -- Archival resources. |
| Geographic: |
United
States -- Discovery and exploration -- Spanish -- Archival resources.
Florida
-- History -- To 1821 -- Archival resources.
Southwest,
New -- History -- To 1848 -- Archival resources. |
| Note(s): |
Papers from
a conference held at the Library of Congress in Sept. 1987./ Includes
bibliographical references and index. |
| Class
Descriptors: |
LC:
E184.S7; Dewey:
973/.0461 |
| Responsibility: |
edited by
Lawrence A. Clayton. |
| Material
Type: |
Conference
publication (cnp); Government publication (gpb); State or province
government publication (sgp) |
| Document
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Book |
| Entry: |
19911023 |
| Update: |
20010531 |
| Accession No: |
OCLC:
24872359 |
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WorldCat |
I guess what I'm saying is that we should think of the
www.familysearch.org website and all the materials found via the LDS
church as only the tip of the ice burg. Our relatives ARE recorded. We
CAN find our relatives. It will take desire and motivation and yes did
I say a lot of Hard Work and much time.
thanks Victor for starting this thread,
joseph
ps: if you haven't started using WorldCat yet. . .what are you waiting
for? Contact your public libary and see if you can gain access at home.
Contact your local Universities and see if you can get access at home
by becoming a "Friend of the Library" or by joining the Adult
continuing Education program or by joining ??? Ask them for the
options.
Victor Villarreal wrote:
Joseph, I'm afraid that the percentage of films yet to be captured to
the IGI is quite significant, because using the batch number list in
Ranchos2 and going thru the list number by number for several
localities of my interest many of them didn't return any records.
And I mean any records, not just the ones I'm looking for.
This is an unexpected finding for me. Any comments?
Victor
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
well thank you so much for this work you are doing. . .commendable.
I
thought about doing it but realized I couldn't commit to that kind
of
committment. I did a volunteer job on the 1910 Census and boy that
use a
lot of time. So I can't do it again unless my situation changes.
Thanks
for your efforts. What area are you working on? Have you done other
films? Is there a list of films somewhere that has which films are
in
"Que" to be done next? Are there other Jalisco, Zacatecas, or
Aguascalientes films that might be happening soon.
Gracias Jose para su trabajo!
joseph
zendean wrote:
Joseph; Yes, I am one of the those volunteers that
does "extraction"
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