Re: [ranchos] SALUDOS TO EVERYONE

[Guillermo Valdez <valhdez@...>]

We definetly shouldn't rule out the presence of blacks
in México (and we might have some blood too!), but we
have to be aware that blacks were brought to México at
first when Spaniards arrive to Veracruz. This is why
we find most black mexicans in the eastern coast of
México (Gulf of Mexico). As soon as they started
conquering the indians, the need for black labor
became unnecessary. I would not question the veracity
of Vaughn's assertion about black outnumbering
spaniards (maybe at the beginning of the colony), but
I doubt it is true in present day México. If I'm not
mistaken (correct me if I am wrong), México and
Argentina and the two latin american countries with
the smallest black population.

Guillermo Valdez.


--- alice wissing <alice_wissing@...> wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I've always wondered if any families had haciendas
> in the Los Altos area and what differentiates a
> ranch from a hacienda.  Does anyone out there know
> how I would go about finding that information?  
>  
> I stumbled across the Bobby Vaughn website some time
> ago and found it fascinating.  I think it was only
> in Mexico City where the blacks outnumbered the
> Spaniards.  
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Alice
> 
> sgapodaca <sgapodaca@...> wrote:
> 
> I hope everyone is doing ok. I just came back from a
> trip to Jalisco 
> and wanted to let you know that I had a lot of fun.
> Of course, I used 
> some of my time there interviewing my relatives and
> visiting the 
> Zacoalco's notaria for records from the 1700's.
> Soon, I'll post an 
> updated family tree on the files section.
> 
> By the way, the conversation about spanish ancestors
> and indios 
> ancestors is past already, but I just wanted to
> remind you that we 
> must not forget our african roots. According to
> researcher Bobby 
> Vaughn, black population outnumbered spaniards
> during most of the 
> colonial times. Have a look at this page:
> www.afromexico.com I, and 
> probably many of you, have found mulatos, coyotes,
> and similar terms 
> on some of our lines, which means that we also have
> african roots.
> 
> Is anyone aware of a book called "Haciendas y
> Estancias de Jalisco"? 
> Well, on a trip to Guadalajara, I got a copy of this
> book, and even 
> though I haven't read it all, It has some
> interesting information on 
> the haciendas of Jalisco.
> 
> Ok, I'll keep in touch.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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