Re: Toribio Romo -- Mexico's Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!

["Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@...>]

The first enlightened leader of the are which we are all researching, 
Miguel de Caldera, was one of the first Mestizos in Mexico.  He 
encouraged and was trusted by the Spanish Crown and Novo-Spanish 
(Mexican) vice-roy to take indigenous peoples (Tlaxcaltecs) into 
the "chichimeca" as a means of pacifying and normalizing relations 
with the Caxacanes, Zacatecos, Guachichiles, etc.

He was very successful and I am pretty certain he was brown.  I am 
now researching Afro-Mexican history and it is amazing to see that so 
many of the leaders of the Mexican independence such as Vicente 
Guerrero and even Pancho Villa were of African descent... not to 
mention that Victoriano Huerta was Huichol and Benito Juarez was 
Zapotec.  I think that as much prejudice as there was back then, the 
demographic collapse brought about by Eastern Hemisphere diseases 
made it necessary for anybosy to appreciate a bright, hard-working 
person and those exemplary people who were willing to work did well 
for themselves.  Statistically probaly not as well as they might have 
done now a days but definitely better than people of color were doing 
in the United States at the same time... Benito Juarez was president 
at the same time as Abraham Lincoln...



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte <albertodua@y...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Hey, Emile, some mestizos from Jerez held predominate
> positions in Zacactecas! Two of our Gracia de la
> Cadena family members were governors (Francisco Garcia
> Salinas and Trinidad Garcia de la Cadena) of
> Zacatecas, and many recent Duartes, Gracias, Tovars,
> and Sanchezs are doctors, lawyers, writers, and
> successful business men throughout Zacatecas.  But
> yes, light skin Mexicans do have an aveage over those
> of dark skin, just like in this country.
> 
> Alberto Duarte Prieto
> Santa Maria, California
>  
> --- Emilie Garcia <auntyemfaustus@h...> wrote:
> 
> > Irma--
> > 
> > No, I don't have the surname Romo in my lines.  It
> > is my husband's ancestors, the Garcias, who are
> > light skinned, tall, light haired, and hazel-eyed or
> > blue eyed Tapatios from Jalisco.  The photo of the
> > saint in the article for which I sent a link bears a
> > striking resemblance to my husband, his father, and
> > his great-grandmother, Marciana Cervantes.  I have
> > traced some of the Garcias who married into the
> > Calzada family that were from Rincon de Romos.  My
> > husband's gggg-grandfather Cayetano Garcia married
> > Anna Cleta Calzada.  Marciana Cervantes was
> > descended from Patricio Martines [Martin] who
> > married Maria Maxima Duron; they were also from
> > Rincon de Romos.  In between there were Aguirres,
> > Albas, Gonzaleses, Moroneses, Ornelases.  The
> > closest surname to Romo in my husband's lines is one
> > Roman.  
> > 
> > I was just amazed that someone surnamed Romo from
> > Jalostitlan could look so much like my husband's
> > Garcia-Cervantes family from Encarnacion de Diaz in
> > Jalisco.  People in Jalisco and Aguascalientes must
> > be inter-related.  They also look different from the
> > people I saw in Jerez when I went there in the
> > 1960's with my father.  It seems my husband's
> > ancestors were always merchants or military, or
> > religious, etc. (town people) and were not laborers
> > on the ranchos like my ancestors.  That leads me to
> > believe that the Spaniards were more educated than
> > the Mesizos in Mexico and held positions of
> > authority and in commerce rather than laboring in
> > the fields and ranches.
> > 
> > Emilie Garcia
> > Port Orchard, WA ---
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Irma
> > GomezLucero<mailto:igomezlucero@c...> 
> >   To:
> >
> ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
> > 
> >   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:03 AM
> >   Subject: RE: [ranchos] Toribio Romo -- Mexico's
> > Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!
> > 
> > 
> >   Santo Toribio has many of the features that are
> > commonly seen in Romos even of today.  My aunt
> > married a Romo, and many of my cousins have a
> > striking ressemblance (mostly the beautiful
> > eyes-whether they be brown/green/blue) to Santo
> > Toribio.  Since they haven't done any research, I've
> > been trying to figure out any connections for them. 
> > In doing this, I was able to tie in my dad's side of
> > the family to Santo Toribio's mother who is NOT a
> > Romo.  This is how I came to "meet" John G.  I still
> > have more work to do on my Romos & my cousin's.  I
> > also thought that my Santa Ana Romos would tie into
> > Rincon de Romos.  My cousins claim that their father
> > often told them they weren't related to the Romos of
> > Santa Ana--that they were from San Luis Potosi.  I
> > just think that their features are a bit too much to
> > ignore.  Gotta go and dig some more....
> >   Emilie, am I understanding that you have Romo too,
> > and that you tied into the Romos in Rincon de Romos?
> >  Just wondering...  I know there are still many
> > there but haven't been able to tie mine in ...
> >   Irma
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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> >   From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Alberto Duarte
> >   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:15 AM
> >   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> >   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Toribio Romo -- Mexico's
> > Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!
> > 
> > 
> >   It's called faith and we have it.
> > 
> >   Alberto Duarte Prieto
> >   Santa Maria, California
> > 
> >   --- Emilie Garcia <auntyemfaustus@h...>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >   > 
> >   >
> >  
> >
> 
http://www.viewzone.com/gene01.html<http://www.viewzone.com/gene01.htm
l><http://www.viewzone.com/gene01.html<http://www.viewzone.com/gene01.
html>>
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > John,
> >   > 
> >   > I had never heard of the saint you are related
> > to,
> >   > so I started browsing the internet for
> > information
> >   > on him, and I found this interesting article
> > (check
> >   > link above).  What was fascinating to me is the
> >   > picture of Toribio Romo.  He bears a striking
> >   > resemblance to my husband, his father, and his
> >   > great-grandmother Marciana Cervantes who was
> > from
> >   > Encarnacion de Diaz in Jalisco and whose
> > ancestors I
> >   > have traced to Rincon de Romos in Aguascalientes
> >   > which is just south of our areas of interest in
> >   > Zacatecas.  
> >   > 
> >   > How lucky you are to have traced your ancestors
> > back
> >   > to 1550; I've been working so hard for over five
> >   > YEARS and have only found our people back to the
> >   > early 1700's. Was Santo Toribio Romo perhaps
> > guiding
> >   > you?  The article goes into a deep discussion
> > about
> >   > guardian angels, etc. all the way back in
> > history
> >   > even before the Hebrews.  
> >   > 
> >   > May Santo Toribio help us all in meeting our
> > goals
> >   > as he has helped others of our people.
> >   > 
> >   > Emilie Garcia
> >   > Port Orchard, WA ---
> >   > 
> >   > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >               
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