Re: Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

["v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@...>]

Emilie,

Don't despair.  Do what Angie suggests and check the Civil Registry
records.  What I find strange is that the dates don't quite check
because the Mexican Revolution started in 1910 not 1903.  Maybe it was
some other disaster or maybe they made a typo when they captured that
record.  I've seen microfilms whose contents don't exactly agree with
the index at the Library Catalog.  So maybe you can take a look at
those microfilms anyway just to be sure.  After all that, if you still
haven't found anything, then you can cry, but just a little!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>
wrote:
>
> Oh, Angie, Victor,
> 
> I guess the priest my father talked to was correct.  The records for
1903 when my father was born were burned during the Revolucion.  The
films skip from 1902 to 1906.  I want to cry. 
> 
> Emilie
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Emilie Garcia<mailto:auntyemfaustus@h...> 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com> 
>   Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 2:07 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos
> 
> 
>   Thaks, Angie ---- I guess I never looked at the whole list for
Jerez and only saw the Bautismos on the top.
> 
>   Emilie Garcia 
>   Port Orchard, WA --
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: aajay1073<mailto:aajay1073@y...> 
>     To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com> 
>     Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:36 PM
>     Subject: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos
> 
> 
>     Emilie,
> 
>     Here is this list:
>     Bautismos de hijos naturales 1867-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439889 ]
>     Bautismos de hijos naturales 1891-1902 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439890 ]
>     Bautismos de hijos naturales 1906-1919 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439891 ]
>     Bautismos de hijos naturales 1953-1961 -  VAULT INTL Film [
439892 ] 
> 
>     Taken from this page:
>    
http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai<http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai>
>     lsprint.asp?titleno=354158
> 
>     Good luck on your search,
>     Angie Godina
> 
> 
>     --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"
<auntyemfaustus@h...> 
>     wrote:
>     >
>     > Yesterday I was at the local FHC again poring over the microfilm 
>     for baptisms from Jerez around the time my father Guadalupe Olague 
>     was born (January 28, 1903).  I have never been able to locate my 
>     father's birth record in it, even though I have found his father in 
>     Tepetongo (Rancho Salitrillo) and others there back to the early 
>     1700's. While I was loading the film yesterday, I noticed that the 
>     title of the book filmed was "Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos", and
sure 
>     enough, I did not find one "hijo natural" or "hijo de padre no 
>     conocido" in it.  It seems all other films I have searched included 
>     all baptisms, hijos naturales, adoptivos, etc. even if they made 
>     reference to other books where the actual names of the parents were 
>     written.  So, hmmm, was Daddy illegitimate?  If so, is there a book 
>     for "hijos naturales" that was not microfilmed?  What would such a 
>     book be called?  Where would one obtain info from such a book, and 
>     would it take an act of congress to get it?
>     > 
>     > My father at one time (in the early 1960's) needed a birth record 
>     for work and for Social Security and we went from California to
Jerez 
>     to the church there only to have the priest tell him that all
records 
>     for that time period had been burned during the Revolucion. 
Sometime 
>     later, my father must have contacted a lawyer there because
after my 
>     mother died and I was going through all their records, I found an 
>     affadavit to prove his previously unrecorded birth.  As testigos
and 
>     witnesses that my father was born in Jerez were listed some men 
>     (maybe they are deceased by now) that bore the surnames of his 
>     parent's and grandparent's lines (Munos, Soriano. Escobedo,
Garcia).  
>     His mother was Gorgonia Garcia.  Where and how did this lawyer find 
>     them?  One place name mentioned was "La Gavia", but it is not
one of 
>     the places mentioned in the film I have been looking at (0439867).  
>     In the list of Communidades (Rancherias) de Jerez that I have, La 
>     Gavia is mentioned as being founded by the Garcia-Cadena, Diaz, and 
>     Escobedo families at the end of the 16th century.  The list
names 142 
>     communidades y rancherias for Jerez alone.  Some of my father's 
>     ancestors were Felix, and there is a community or rancho called Los 
>     Felix on the list.  That was founded by Jose and Doroteo Felix. The 
>     community of Tepetongo where my father's ancestors were from was 
>     called Salitrillo, and is not listed in the list for Jerez even 
>     though Tepetongo was in the Jurisdiccion de Jerez.
>     > 
>     > Does anyone know about books for "hijos naturales", etc?
>     > 
>     > Emilie Garcia
>     > Port Orchard, WA.
>     >
> 
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