Re: Researcher for Zacatecas

["Erlinda Castanon-Long" <longsjourney@...>]

I forgot to mention the website under contruction where Mr.De La 
Torre has where he freely shares information.  
http://club.telepolis.com/letorre/archivo/introduccion1.htm
Linda in Everett

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "rosa9972" <lareina2@i...> wrote:
>
> I would definitely be interested in this, since some information I 
> need is unavailable, for the years I need are missing.  Count me 
in 
> on the contribution for his information.  What a great resource, 
and 
> thanks, Arturo, for contacting him.  
>  
> Great work!
>  
> Prima Rosalinda
> 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" 
<arturo.ramos2@v...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have already arranged to meet Mr. de la Torre in Colotlan 
along 
> > with Esteban Valdes Salazar in a couple of weeks.
> > 
> > Mr. de la Torre has also suggested that we could purchase Jerez 
> > information that he has already compiled from him and then it 
> would 
> > be ours to share among ourselves.  I dared not ask a price, as I 
> > think that is going to be a delicate negotiation and it really 
> > depends on what it is that he has.
> > 
> > He has mentioned that the Jerez parrish archves have 
confirmation 
> > records and informacion matrimonial records for most of the 
years 
> in 
> > the 17th century where the baptism and marriage records are 
> missing.  
> > He also does a lot of research on protocolos from the Zacatecas 
> state 
> > archives, which are not available on film.
> > 
> > Ed and I are definitely going to hire him.  He is very 
particular 
> > about getting paid up front and via wire transfer... This is not 
> too 
> > big a deal if we collect money and pay him a monthly stipend, 
> which 
> > is his suggestion.  I think it is a matter of making sure that 
we 
> get 
> > good work product from him.  If people would like, we can set up 
a 
> > research queue with Ed and me putting up the first month's 
stipend 
> > and then we can let you all know how it goes and the next group 
of 
> > people can step up to the plate with their research questions, 
etc.
> > 
> > The one thing I have not been able to gauge is how much work a 
> $200 
> > monthly stipend will get us.  He works a job and already has 
> another 
> > monthly stipend customer but I also get the sense he does 
research 
> > even if he doesn't get paid so it would basically be shifting 
his 
> > work away from his personal interest to ours.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" 
> <auntyemfaustus@h...> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am interested to know how computer-savvy Mr. De La Torre is 
as 
> > regards doing genealogy research online.  He has an e-mail 
> address, 
> > so obviously he is computer-literate, but if I e-mailed him, 
would 
> he 
> > know what I was talking about if I mentioned the IGI, 
> Ancestry.com, 
> > World Connect, etc.?  Would he be able to scan and e-mail copies 
> of 
> > records and photos, or would he prefer snail-mail?   I cannot go 
> to 
> > Jerez, and all my communication with him would be via e-mail or 
> snail-
> > mail, and I could send money to him from our local post office, 
> the 
> > way I see the green-carders here doing (sending money to 
Mexico).  
> > > 
> > > Emilie Garcia
> > > Port Orchard, WA ----
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > 
> > >   From: Joseph Puentes<mailto:makas@n...> 
> > >   To: 
ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com> ; 
> > Edward Serros<mailto:ed@s...> 
> > >   Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:14 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for Zacatecas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   zendean wrote:
> > > 
> > > Joseph; With enough interested parties, $100 may not be 
> necessary. 
> > I know a family that contributes $25 each to do their family 
line 
> per 
> > month.who are they contributing to? Are you saying this is 
> a "going 
> > rate?"
> > > 
> > >   Arturo says he is going to talk more to el señor Leonardo de 
> La 
> > Torre. 
> > > 
> > >   Ed Serros was in communication with him before. Ed, how was 
> your 
> > experience?
> > > 
> > >   joseph
> > > 
> > >  If there was a coordinated effort to line up all 
> parties/surnames 
> > and locations then it would be possible for the searcher to do 
> each 
> > line and make a good living. Do you agree ?  I wonder if this is 
a 
> > practicable suggestion. Arturo may be on to something and if it 
> works 
> > out then a link will have been established that we all can 
follow. 
> We 
> > would need to see the film documentation or it would be 
valueless.
> > > I would like to hear your take on the matter as I think that 
> this 
> > could blossom.yes there is a good possibility. Let's see what 
> Arturo 
> > says after he talks to him more. We might need to wait until he 
> gets 
> > back from MX as I'm pretty sure he is going to get together with 
> him 
> > during his trip.
> > > 
> > > Jose Luis Macias
> > > decendant of Francisco Macias, of Jerez, Zacatecas
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joseph Puentes <makas@n...><mailto:makas@n...>
> > > Sent: Dec 4, 2005 11:46 PM
> > > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com>, 
> Arturo 
> > Ramos <arturo.ramos2@v...><mailto:arturo.ramos2@v...>
> > > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for Zacatecas
> > > 
> > > Arturo what do you suppose a figure would be for this monthly 
> > stipend? 
> > > Are you thinking that several of us that might be interested 
> could 
> > > contribute to come up with this monthly stipend? Did you get 
an 
> > idea of 
> > > what he was talking about?
> > > 
> > > I wonder how many hours of research $100 would buy me? Well 
that 
> is 
> > all 
> > > I'd be willing to contribute. I have a dead end in Zacatecas, 
> > Zacatecas 
> > > I need "advice" in knowing how to get around.
> > > 
> > > let me know if you think this would buy me something and if so 
> I'll 
> > send 
> > > you 5 scanned records that will give you the information he 
will 
> > need to 
> > > do my preliminary investigation.
> > > 
> > > joseph
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Arturo Ramos wrote:
> > > 
> > >   I have been corresponding with this man for the last week 
and 
> I 
> > will 
> > > be meeting with him during my upcoming trip to Mexico.  He has 
> > > proposed doing research in the Zacatecas state archives for a 
> > monthly 
> > > stipend.  I was wondering if there is anybody who is intereste 
> and 
> > > would be willing to "try him out".  His name is Leonardo de La 
> > Torre 
> > > Berumen and he is the municipal archivist in Jerez.
> > > 
> > > From: leonardo de la torre 
> > [mailto:leon_torre@y...<mailto:leon_torre@y...>] 
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:21 PM
> > > To: arturo_ramos@a...<mailto:arturo_ramos@a...>
> > > Subject: RE: Investigaciones Genealogicas
> > > 
> > > Señor Ramos si gusta nos vemos en Colotlàn, porque a
> > > Zacatecas se hacen como 2 horas y media de distancia,
> > > lo que le pediria si gusta que platiquemos largo y
> > > tendido como decimos los mexicanos puedo quedarme allà
> > > en hotel, no se con comida pasaje y hotel le parecen
> > > unos 800 pesos en moneda mexicana, y ya si le interesa
> > > el trabajo, puedo trabajarle a Usted por mensualidades
> > > de 200 dolares para sacarle todo lo que le interese
> > > sobre familias que tengan que ver con las del sur de
> > > zacatecas, es decir de Colotlàn, Huejuquilla el Alto,
> > > Huejucar, Mezquitic y Monte Escobedo. Porque ese
> > > precio porque esto lo hago en mis ratos libres y
> > > realmente me llevo buen tiempo haciendolo, yaque mi
> > > trabajo me absorve mucho pues estoy al frente del
> > > Archivo Historico Municipal de Jerez y es buen
> > > compromiso dirigir ese espacio,asì es que por ello
> > > pongo este precio por que tengo otras ocupaciones,
> > > tambièn le trabajo asi de modo mensual a un miembro de
> > > la Academia de Heraldica y Genealogia de la Ciudad de
> > > Mèxico. Otra cosa a lomejor Usted pasa por Jerez,porqe
> > > es la pasada para ir a Colotlàn,si viene por tierra es
> > > decir en vehiculo, solo que se venga por avion a
> > > Guadalajara y de Guadalajara a Colotlàn por vehiculo,
> > > y si llega al Aeropuerto de Calera, si debe pasar por
> > > Jerez. Porque esta via es Calera, Jerez, Tepetongo,
> > > Huejucar, Colotlan y Tlaltengo, que tambièn es un
> > > lugar muy importante para algunos genealogistas, pues
> > > es un pueblo de indios fundado desde 1542, y contiene
> > > archivo desde 1626, muy rico acervo que ya he
> > > consultado en varios momentos. 
> > > Sin màssuamigo Leo. Digame el dia y la hora en que nos
> > > veamos en colotlàn, ahi tengo dos grandes amigas
> > > Lasmaestras de Leòn que pueden recibirnos, ellas tiene
> > > un grupo de protecciòn de monumentos coloniales
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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