Re: Researcher for Zacatecas

["rosa9972" <lareina2@...>]

I would definitely be interested in this, since some information I 
need is unavailable, for the years I need are missing.  Count me in 
on the contribution for his information.  What a great resource, and 
thanks, Arturo, for contacting him.  
 
Great work!
 
Prima Rosalinda


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> 
wrote:
>
> I have already arranged to meet Mr. de la Torre in Colotlan along 
> with Esteban Valdes Salazar in a couple of weeks.
> 
> Mr. de la Torre has also suggested that we could purchase Jerez 
> information that he has already compiled from him and then it 
would 
> be ours to share among ourselves.  I dared not ask a price, as I 
> think that is going to be a delicate negotiation and it really 
> depends on what it is that he has.
> 
> He has mentioned that the Jerez parrish archves have confirmation 
> records and informacion matrimonial records for most of the years 
in 
> the 17th century where the baptism and marriage records are 
missing.  
> He also does a lot of research on protocolos from the Zacatecas 
state 
> archives, which are not available on film.
> 
> Ed and I are definitely going to hire him.  He is very particular 
> about getting paid up front and via wire transfer... This is not 
too 
> big a deal if we collect money and pay him a monthly stipend, 
which 
> is his suggestion.  I think it is a matter of making sure that we 
get 
> good work product from him.  If people would like, we can set up a 
> research queue with Ed and me putting up the first month's stipend 
> and then we can let you all know how it goes and the next group of 
> people can step up to the plate with their research questions, etc.
> 
> The one thing I have not been able to gauge is how much work a 
$200 
> monthly stipend will get us.  He works a job and already has 
another 
> monthly stipend customer but I also get the sense he does research 
> even if he doesn't get paid so it would basically be shifting his 
> work away from his personal interest to ours.
> 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" 
<auntyemfaustus@h...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I am interested to know how computer-savvy Mr. De La Torre is as 
> regards doing genealogy research online.  He has an e-mail 
address, 
> so obviously he is computer-literate, but if I e-mailed him, would 
he 
> know what I was talking about if I mentioned the IGI, 
Ancestry.com, 
> World Connect, etc.?  Would he be able to scan and e-mail copies 
of 
> records and photos, or would he prefer snail-mail?   I cannot go 
to 
> Jerez, and all my communication with him would be via e-mail or 
snail-
> mail, and I could send money to him from our local post office, 
the 
> way I see the green-carders here doing (sending money to Mexico).  
> > 
> > Emilie Garcia
> > Port Orchard, WA ----
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > 
> >   From: Joseph Puentes<mailto:makas@n...> 
> >   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com> ; 
> Edward Serros<mailto:ed@s...> 
> >   Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:14 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for Zacatecas
> > 
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> >   zendean wrote:
> > 
> > Joseph; With enough interested parties, $100 may not be 
necessary. 
> I know a family that contributes $25 each to do their family line 
per 
> month.who are they contributing to? Are you saying this is 
a "going 
> rate?"
> > 
> >   Arturo says he is going to talk more to el señor Leonardo de 
La 
> Torre. 
> > 
> >   Ed Serros was in communication with him before. Ed, how was 
your 
> experience?
> > 
> >   joseph
> > 
> >  If there was a coordinated effort to line up all 
parties/surnames 
> and locations then it would be possible for the searcher to do 
each 
> line and make a good living. Do you agree ?  I wonder if this is a 
> practicable suggestion. Arturo may be on to something and if it 
works 
> out then a link will have been established that we all can follow. 
We 
> would need to see the film documentation or it would be valueless.
> > I would like to hear your take on the matter as I think that 
this 
> could blossom.yes there is a good possibility. Let's see what 
Arturo 
> says after he talks to him more. We might need to wait until he 
gets 
> back from MX as I'm pretty sure he is going to get together with 
him 
> during his trip.
> > 
> > Jose Luis Macias
> > decendant of Francisco Macias, of Jerez, Zacatecas
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Puentes <makas@n...><mailto:makas@n...>
> > Sent: Dec 4, 2005 11:46 PM
> > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com>, 
Arturo 
> Ramos <arturo.ramos2@v...><mailto:arturo.ramos2@v...>
> > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for Zacatecas
> > 
> > Arturo what do you suppose a figure would be for this monthly 
> stipend? 
> > Are you thinking that several of us that might be interested 
could 
> > contribute to come up with this monthly stipend? Did you get an 
> idea of 
> > what he was talking about?
> > 
> > I wonder how many hours of research $100 would buy me? Well that 
is 
> all 
> > I'd be willing to contribute. I have a dead end in Zacatecas, 
> Zacatecas 
> > I need "advice" in knowing how to get around.
> > 
> > let me know if you think this would buy me something and if so 
I'll 
> send 
> > you 5 scanned records that will give you the information he will 
> need to 
> > do my preliminary investigation.
> > 
> > joseph
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Arturo Ramos wrote:
> > 
> >   I have been corresponding with this man for the last week and 
I 
> will 
> > be meeting with him during my upcoming trip to Mexico.  He has 
> > proposed doing research in the Zacatecas state archives for a 
> monthly 
> > stipend.  I was wondering if there is anybody who is intereste 
and 
> > would be willing to "try him out".  His name is Leonardo de La 
> Torre 
> > Berumen and he is the municipal archivist in Jerez.
> > 
> > From: leonardo de la torre 
> [mailto:leon_torre@y...<mailto:leon_torre@y...>] 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:21 PM
> > To: arturo_ramos@a...<mailto:arturo_ramos@a...>
> > Subject: RE: Investigaciones Genealogicas
> > 
> > Señor Ramos si gusta nos vemos en Colotlàn, porque a
> > Zacatecas se hacen como 2 horas y media de distancia,
> > lo que le pediria si gusta que platiquemos largo y
> > tendido como decimos los mexicanos puedo quedarme allà
> > en hotel, no se con comida pasaje y hotel le parecen
> > unos 800 pesos en moneda mexicana, y ya si le interesa
> > el trabajo, puedo trabajarle a Usted por mensualidades
> > de 200 dolares para sacarle todo lo que le interese
> > sobre familias que tengan que ver con las del sur de
> > zacatecas, es decir de Colotlàn, Huejuquilla el Alto,
> > Huejucar, Mezquitic y Monte Escobedo. Porque ese
> > precio porque esto lo hago en mis ratos libres y
> > realmente me llevo buen tiempo haciendolo, yaque mi
> > trabajo me absorve mucho pues estoy al frente del
> > Archivo Historico Municipal de Jerez y es buen
> > compromiso dirigir ese espacio,asì es que por ello
> > pongo este precio por que tengo otras ocupaciones,
> > tambièn le trabajo asi de modo mensual a un miembro de
> > la Academia de Heraldica y Genealogia de la Ciudad de
> > Mèxico. Otra cosa a lomejor Usted pasa por Jerez,porqe
> > es la pasada para ir a Colotlàn,si viene por tierra es
> > decir en vehiculo, solo que se venga por avion a
> > Guadalajara y de Guadalajara a Colotlàn por vehiculo,
> > y si llega al Aeropuerto de Calera, si debe pasar por
> > Jerez. Porque esta via es Calera, Jerez, Tepetongo,
> > Huejucar, Colotlan y Tlaltengo, que tambièn es un
> > lugar muy importante para algunos genealogistas, pues
> > es un pueblo de indios fundado desde 1542, y contiene
> > archivo desde 1626, muy rico acervo que ya he
> > consultado en varios momentos. 
> > Sin màssuamigo Leo. Digame el dia y la hora en que nos
> > veamos en colotlàn, ahi tengo dos grandes amigas
> > Lasmaestras de Leòn que pueden recibirnos, ellas tiene
> > un grupo de protecciòn de monumentos coloniales
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