Re: [ranchos] Muros and Sanchez Castellanos

[jose munoz <jmunoz2781@...>]

Carol:

Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara. Roolo 167998 OAH 2358
pt. 2. Matrimonios Hojas Sueltas, 1730.  28 de abril
de 1730.   Pg. 302 - #1625.
Villanueva, Zac. Abril 28 de 1730. Exp. 27.  Mentions
declaracion del Cap. CRISTOBAL DEL MURO, de 64 anos de
edad: 

Jose Munoz

--- Carol Turner <cmuroturner@...> wrote:

> My Muro family did marry into the Luna, Haro,
> Sanchez,
> Carrillo, Marquez, Sandoval, Saldana, Rodriguez and
> Gonzales, Gomez families.  I have gone back into the
> mid-1750's with most of these lines.  I'm going to
> submit more of our family tree since right now I
> just
> have our Muro's in the files.  Our family lived in
> Sauz De Los Marques and record shows the Muros were
> back as far as 1731.  Most of our family records
> were
> in Colotlan and Santa Mara De Los Angeles,
> Villanueva
> and probably will find they started in Jerez.  I
> haven't been able to break through my brick wall
> with
> Juan del Muro & Rita Gertrudis Gomez (mid-1750's).
> 
> Thanks for the info submitted, I will check my notes
> to see if any of these names are on tree.  I envy
> those that have gone back into the 1600's, all of
> you
> are true researchers and have helped so many of us
> with new ideas!!!!
> 
> Carol Muro-Turner
> 
> --- Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...> wrote:
> 
> > Jose:
> > I forgot to mention the ranch my uncles purchased
> > (Lo
> > de Luna, which included a number of other ranches
> in
> > the area) was from the Munoz family, one of the
> > wealthiest and famous families in Jerez at that
> > time. 
> > 
> > 
> > Alberto
> > 
> > --- Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > I would say yes.  Duarte and the Haro families
> did
> > > intermarry, too, in Jerez.  Also, the ranch my
> > > uncles
> > > (Garcia de la Cadena brothers) purchased outside
> > of
> > > Jerez circa 1730 was called Lo de Luna. Luna
> > family
> > > ties? 
> > > 
> > > Written on some of the church documents that I
> > > researched on the Duartes, I've seen the names
> > > Pueblo
> > > de Talltenango, Fresnillo and Guadalajara
> mention.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Also, in his time, Francisco Castellanos Sanchez
> > was
> > > one of the most wealthest men in Zacatecas,
> > > according
> > > to a book I read.  I sure could use some of his
> > > money
> > > now.
> > > 
> > > Alberto Duarte Prieto
> > > 
> > >   
> > > --- jose munoz <jmunoz2781@...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Marge/Alberto; Relations to any of the
> > following??
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara. Rollo 167971 OAH
> > > 3241
> > > > pt. 1. Matrimonios. Hojas Sueltas. Siglo XVII.
> 
> > 19
> > > > de
> > > > Junio de 1684.         Pg.6 -- #25.           
>  
> >  
> > >  
> > > >  
> > > >                 
> > > > 
> > > > Guadalajara, Jal. Junio 19, 1684, - Dispensa
> de
> > > > cuatro
> > > > grado de consanguinidad. - RODRIGO SANCHEZ
> > > > CASTELLANOS, espanol, natural del partido de
> > > > Taltenango, y residente en esta Ciudad de
> > > > guadalajara,
> > > > hijo legitimo de MANUEL SANCHEZ CASTELLANOS y
> de
> > > > JOSEPHA DE RODAS, espanoles, vecinos de la
> > > > jurisdiccion de le ; pretende casarse con
> > > > Dona JUANA DE LUNA, espanola, hija legitima de
> > > > BARTOLOME DE LUNA y Dona LORENZA DE HARO,
> > vecinos
> > > > del
> > > > partido de Taltenango. Declaraccion de
> FRANCISCO
> > > > XAVIER MEJIA, espanol de 30 anos de edad,
> vecino
> > > del
> > > > Pueblo de Taltenango, y residente de esta
> dicha
> > > > Ciudad
> > > > de Guadalajara: Que THOMASINA DE HARO y
> HERNANDO
> > > DE
> > > > HARO, Difuntos, fueron primos hermanos, y la
> > dicha
> > > > THOMASINA, tuvo por su hijo legitimo a MANUEL
> > > > SANCHEZ,
> > > > padre legitimo del dicho RODRIGO SANCHEZ. Y
> que
> > el
> > > > dicho HERNANDO DE HARO, tuvo por su hija
> > legitima
> > > a
> > > > Dona LORENZA DE HARO, la cual fue casada con
> > > > BARTOLOME
> > > > DE LUNA, y de su matrimonio tuvieron por su
> hija
> > > > legitma a la dicha Dona JUANA DE LUNA,
> pretensa
> > > > contrayente. Se otorgo la dispensa en La
> Ciudad
> > de
> > > > Guadalajara en 21 de Junio de 1684, y licencia
> > > para
> > > > que los case el Cura del PFrom makas@... Thu Dec 01 01:03:04 2005
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congratulations on this new find. . .its always exciting isn't it

Alicia Carrillo wrote:

> Sorry guys, had to share this story, it's too much for me to hold in.
>  
> I just made a new discovery today regarding my husband's direct line 
> ancestry. I have known for about 6 months who his GG maternal 
> Grandparents were, Hilario de Jauregui and Maria Concepion Olasaba who 
> married 12 May 1824 in Nochistlan Zac, but today I discovered that 
> Hilario and Ma Concepcion are also his GG paternalGrandparents.
>  
> Hilario de Jauregui and Ma Concepcion Olasaba had 7 children that I 
> know of so far.

I missed the point right here. Name the children. Are Antonio and Maria 
Guadalupe children of Hilario and Maria Concepcion above?

so you have:

your husband-->Antonio-->who was this 
person?-->Francisco-->Hilario/MariaConcepcion
your husband-->MariaGuadalupe-->who was this 
person?-->Juana-->Hilario/MariaConcepcion

yeah it looks like 3rd cousins to me.

just like my grandparents were 3rd cousins

joseph


>   Antonio Carrillo's grandfather was Francisco de Jauregui and Ma 
> Guadalupe's Grandmother was Juana de Jauregui. Francisco and Juana 
> were brother and sister, therefore that makes Hilario de Jauregui and 
> Maria Concepcion Olasaba my father in-law and my mother in-law's Great 
> Grandparents . Does this mean my husband's parents Antonio Carrillo 
> Jauregui and Ma Guadalupe Olmos Avelar were third cousins? and does 
> this also mean that my husband is his own fourth cousin?
>  
> I can hear the sounds of the drums as the clan dances around the camp 
> fire to celebrate that they have been found out.
>  
> Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
>


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congratulations on this new find. . .its always exciting isn't it<br>
<br>
Alicia Carrillo wrote:<br>
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 cite="mid20051201024614.57066.qmail@...">
  <div>Sorry guys, had to share this story, it's too much for me to
hold in.</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>I just made a new discovery today regarding my husband's direct
line ancestry.&nbsp;I have known for about 6 months&nbsp;who his GG maternal
Grandparents were, Hilario de Jauregui and Maria Concepion Olasaba who
married 12 May 1824 in Nochistlan Zac, but today I discovered that
Hilario and Ma Concepcion are also his GG paternalGrandparents. </div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>Hilario de Jauregui and Ma Concepcion Olasaba&nbsp;had&nbsp;7 children
that I know of so far.</div>
</blockquote>
I missed the point right here. Name the children. Are Antonio and Maria
Guadalupe children of Hilario and Maria Concepcion above?<br>
<br>
so you have:<br>
<br>
your husband--&gt;Antonio--&gt;who was this
person?--&gt;Francisco--&gt;Hilario/MariaConcepcion<br>
your husband--&gt;MariaGuadalupe--&gt;who was this
person?--&gt;Juana--&gt;Hilario/MariaConcepcion<br>
<br>
yeah it looks like 3rd cousins to me.<br>
<br>
just like my grandparents were 3rd cousins<br>
<br>
joseph<br>
<br>
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  <div>&nbsp; Antonio Carrillo's&nbsp;grandfather was Francisco de Jauregui and
Ma Guadalupe's Grandmother was Juana de Jauregui. Francisco and Juana
were brother and sister, therefore that makes Hilario de Jauregui and
Maria Concepcion Olasaba&nbsp;my father in-law and my mother in-law's&nbsp;Great
Grandparents&nbsp;. Does this mean my husband's parents Antonio Carrillo
Jauregui and Ma Guadalupe Olmos Avelar were third cousins? and does
this also mean that my husband is his own fourth cousin? </div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>I can hear the sounds of the drums as the clan dances around the
camp fire to celebrate that they have been found out.</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>Alicia Avelar de Carrillo</div>
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