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Re: [ranchos] Re: Batch Numbers ?

 


Jon, this reply was very much worth waiting for.

Jon Walker wrote:
Joseph
Sorry, for taking so long, reply.  I have been doing research about batch numbers and the Parish and Vital Records List, so that I could answer, your questions.  I am not sure if it, is completely answered.  If not, ask again.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:05 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Batch Numbers ?

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Walker" <jonwalker@p...> wrote:
> Hi,
> One of the ways, to find the batch numbers, for a locality is by
going to a FHC, and looking at the Parish and Vital Records List, it
is on microfiche.  And is only current as of 1998.
>
> I am including  the scanned image, of the list for Villanueva,
Zacatecas.
>
> Good luck, and any questions let me know.
>
> Jon Walker
> jonwalker@p...

Jon,

Kitty Cortez was asking about finding Batch numbers and I thought of
your above response. Can you give us a few more words on this? also
would you care to comment on the LDS meaning in this response. I
didn't exactly understand how this reply would help in getting batch
numbers:

"You can see the ordinance dates on the Internet International
Genealogical Index IF you register AS A MEMBER of The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints."

Would you happen to know if there is a relation between batch numbers
and ordinance dates?

thanks,

joseph 
 
To help me, answer the questions, I  am going to use exerts from several messages, that were recently posted on the "LDS-Ward-Consultant" list on Rootsweb.
 
First, let me explain the "Batch Number":  The "Batch Number" is used to identify the different sources of information, in the LDS International Genealogical Index or IGI.  The first letter or first few numbers in the batch number indicate whether the source is an extracted record, a submitted form, or a membership record.  For example, the C in C503781 indicates an extracted christening or birth record.  For further explanation of the letters and different types of batch numbers, see the Family History Library, resource guide "Finding an IGI Source", item #31024000.
Do you know why they sometimes use the J and K letters rather than just the C and have both sexes together?

Also I know this is a stretch but at the beginning of most films is the name of the person who actually filmed the records. . .is there any way of contacting that person? And if so how would I go about finding them? Who usually filmed the records? Local LDS members or missionaries sent in from other parts of Mexico or the US? Do they ever do  request for refilming?

thanks again for your great answer,

Joseph Puentes
 
But as to how the "Batch Number" pertains to the "Parish and Vital Records List":
 
"The 'Parish and Vital Records List' is a list of the parish, town, and county records extracted (indexed) by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), since 1961, as part to its records extraction program for time periods for which all individuals are deceased.  It also indicates records that are currently being extracted.  Millions of these records are indexed by name in the IGI." Further information can be found the Family History Library, resource guide "Parish and Vital Records List", item #33702000
 
The "Parish and Vital Records List" is only on microfiche, at the Family History Centers,  it is usually located near the IGI microfiche.  The fiche is listed alphabetically by country.  Then by state or county, then by town or parish.  As you can see from below, there are 7 columns.  Column 1, is the state,  Column 2, is the Town and or Parish.  Column 3, is the time period. Column 4 is the record type.  Column 5, is the printout Call number.  Column 6, is the batch number.  And column 7, is the source call number.  Such as the film number.
 
 
 
 
As to the relationship, to the Batch numbers and the temple ordinance dates.  I am going to include a page from a older manual, that refers to the Parish and Vital Records list.
 
"How the Parish and Vital Records List Relates to the International Genealogical Index
 
Changes have been made to the way names are added in the International Genealogical Index.  as a result, the Parish and Vital Records List does not coordinate with the current edition to the International Genealogical Index as it did in the past.  the relationship between the two sources will continue to evole over the next few years.
 
How Names Used to be Processed.  In previous editions, all names extracted were automatically prepared to be sent to the temple and therefore, included in the International Genealogical Index.  names that had not yet had their temple ordinances performed were marked 'cleared.'  As, needed, cleared names were actually sent to temples.  It sometimes was years before an extracted name was sent to a temple even though it was marked 'cleared.'
 
In the Parish and Vital Records List, batches received after the International Genealogical Index was produced were marked with **, indicating the names would appear in hte next edition of the Index.
 
How names Are Now Processed.  Names are added to the International Genealogical Index have actually gone, to the temple and returned to Church Headquarter for final recording.  Therefore, you cannot assume that names from every batch listed in the Parish and Vital Records List automatically appear in the International Genealogical Index.  Neither will all names automatically be sent to the temple."
 
Thanks,
Jon Walker