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RE: [ranchos] Padrones/Hunting For the Spain Link


 
Joseph:  thank you for replying to my e-mail.  I'll try some of those avenues for
searching for Martin Del Campo in Spain.  I have information on Martin Del Campo lineage,
but it is from Steven Hernandez.  I'll have to check with Steven to see if it is
okay to post his genealogy work.  He has done extensive genealogical work in the
Tepatitlan area.  I am searching now on the Navarro side of my family.  What I have
found out is that the people from this area usually married 3rd-4th cousins (it was to
keep the blood of the Spanish pure)  I have found many dispensations in my family.
 
Thanks again Joseph. 
 
Roberta Romero
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:53 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Padrones/Hunting For the Spain Link


Hello Roberta,

Welcome to the group. Speaking only for myself I'm a newcomer to Genealogy just having opened my eyes to its wonders back in August of 2002. But since then its been a wild and wooly ride and it continues to be. I've met your primo Steve Hernandez on the phone a couple of months ago. It would be my dream if he would consider joining this group and taking us all under his wing in our journey's. He has a wealth of information and he'd be a great addition to the groups expertise.

You are the first person in this small community that is doing research in Tepatitlan (is that close to San Juan de Los Lagos--the area I seem to recall Steve said he was researching)? Though I understand that we have some research going on in the Lagos de Moreno area that is not far from San Juan de Los Lagos.

I really don't know exactly where to find more info but if it were me doing this search I might try to find info on those individuals that were on the ships that came from Spain. I know the following website is possibly a little early and possibly the wrong location (Cuba) but who knows if he came directly to Mexico or stopped off in Cuba first. Anyway I'm giving this as only an example of what's available on passenger manifest logs for ships from Spain:

http://www.cubagenweb.org/pass.htm

Also if you'd care to pursue this avenue of possible info you might find out what is available from the AGI:

Archivo General de Indias Director: Pedro Gonzalez Avenida de La Constitucion Sevilla, Spain Tel: 95/ 422 51 58 NOTE: This archive is invaluable to early West Indies research, having over 14 million reports on military and land discoveries from the New World (colonial Mexico) and the surrounding areas.

Here is a website with some dated info and I'd love to find out what work has been accomplished so far and if any of this info is available to be read on film yet:

http://www.sar.org/mxssar/spflor.htm
http://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/gonzalez/bibliography.html
http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byauth/rutimann/archivo.html

http://www.dieminger.com/genealogy/details/en/como_investigar2.asp?txtcat=How%20to%20Investigate%20in%20Spain
(if this long link wraps you might have to rebuild it on your search window)
http://www.ldelpino.com/recursos.html#Punto%20de%20fijaci%F3n165498

Roberta I hope you will consider staying on the group. I hope you will also consider posting your genealogy in the "Files" section so we can all have a look at the details. We're hoping that we might find somewhere that our lines might cross afterall our ancestors basically came from the same geographical area. Its not hard to believe that  somewhere our families might have married into or out of one another.

Joseph

Roberta wrote:
Dear Joseph: 
 
Hi! my name is Roberta Romero and I live in Albuquerque, NM. 
The area where my great-grandfather/grandmother lived was Tepatitlan, Jalisco.
I believe they were from Rancho Presa de Gomez.   Let me know if you have
any information on this area.   My ggfather/mother's names are  Epifanio Martin and
Maria Jesus Navarro.  Epifanio Martin is from the "Martin Del Campo" family. 
We have traced that line all the way to 1600 Spain. 
Capitan Lazaro Martin Del Campo was from Revilla del Campo, Spain.
I was lucky enough to find Steve Hernandez in California who is my primo and he had
all the genealogy work completed.  Lazaro Martin Del Campo married Maria Lopez
De La Cruz in Guadalajara in 1637.  Let me know where I can find more information about him.
Thanks!
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:08 AM
To: LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos] Padrones


See number 0168809 --- that is where I found the page in the files area of the Ranchos webpage. Lyman D. Platt wrote a book called Census Record for Latin America and the Hispanic United States. He gives a run down on what areas are covered in each film. Do an interlibrary loan for this widely available book or let me know what towns you're looking for and I'll look and see what films are covering that area. For Kitty and Rich they might be interested in the census records for Huejucar--168819, 168828, 168833, 168836, 168838 or Lagos de Moreno 221883 or 221884

joseph

ps: Here the complete listing of whats available from the Guadalajara Diocese (other Census available for other areas though)  for Census:

Title
Padrones, 1639-1875

Authors
Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagarda Mitra en Guadalajara.
Census records from parishes within the Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

Subjects
Mexico, Jalisco - Census
Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Census

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1957-1958

Physical
48 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Padrones no hay fechas -  FHL INTL Film [ 168803 ]
Padrones 1639-1775 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168804 ]
Padrones 1727-1817 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168805 ]
Padrones 1803-1831 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168806 ]
Padrones 1817-1840 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168807 ]
Padrones 1817 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168808 ]
Padrones 1817 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168809 ]
Padrones 1817 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168810 ]
Padrones 1817 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168811 ]
Padrones 1818 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168812 ]
Padrones 1818 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168813 ]
Padrones 1818 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168814 ]
Padrones 1819 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168815 ]
Padrones 1819 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168816 ]
Padrones 1819 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168817 ]
Padrones 1820 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168818 ]
Padrones 1820 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168819 ]
Padrones 1820 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168820 ]
Padrones 1820 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168821 ]
Padrones 1820 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168822 ]
Padrones 1821 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168823 ]
Padrones 1821 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168824 ]
Padrones 1821 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168825 ]
Padrones 1821 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168826 ]
Padrones 1822 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168827 ]
Padrones 1822 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168828 ]
Padrones 1822 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168829 ]
Padrones 1822 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168830 ]
Padrones 1824 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168831 ]
Padrones 1824 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168832 ]
Padrones 1824 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168833 ]
Padrones 1824 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168834 ]
Padrones 1825 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168835 ]
Padrones 1825 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168836 ]
Padrones 1825 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168837 ]
Padrones 1826 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168838 ]
Padrones 1828 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168839 ]
Padrones 1828 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168840 ]
Padrones 1830 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168841 ]
Padrones 1830 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168842 ]
Padrones 1830 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168843 ]
Padrones 1830 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168844 ]
Padrones 1831 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168845 ]
Padrones 1831 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168846 ]
Padrones 1831 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168847 ]
Padrones 1831 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168848 ]
Padrones 1831 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168849 ]
Padrones 1836, 1875 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 168850 ]




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