Re: Pinedo Family

["aajay1073" <aajay1073@...>]

Ed,

It is probably not the same Diego Pinedo they you speak of, but I was 
just wondering if you have additional information on this couple.

Diego PINEDO married to Juana DE ESCOVEDO.  They had at least one 
daughter, Augustina PINEDO. She married on 15 Sep 1734 in San Luis, 
Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Juan DE AYON, son of Nicolas DE AYON and 
Petra DE LA MADERA.  This couple had at least five children.

Thanks,
Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Serros" <ed@s...> wrote:
> Jessica,
> 
> I have been trying to figure out how to respond to you and to 
Arturo's comments. I agree 
> with what Arturo has said in general. The Valparaiso data is 
indexed well in the Mormon 
> films after about 1880, so it is fairly straight forward after 
those dates; the Internet IGI 
> (familysearch.org data) is another story and is sparse to say the 
least. Before 1880 it is a 
> real crap-shoot, at least for me. My families came in and out of 
the Valparaiso area and I 
> sometimes wonder if that was not the norm, rather than the 
exception. A few months ago I 
> asked one of my patients who grew up in the area about that 
migratory movement of the 
> Valparaiso people and he stated that people moved to where they had 
to go in order to 
> survive. The extreme example of course is a move to the USA. How 
true this is I have no 
> idea.
> 
> I would like to introduce the following type of thinking to the 
group that perhaps we have 
> not discussed much. The surnames (apellidos) typically reflect the 
paternal lines. With the 
> paternal surnames come: Spanish surnames, Spanish Y-DNA, and 
migratory patterns that 
> perhaps can be traced. The maternal lines generally reflect Native 
American Indian 
> processes: NAI mothers, relatively (and I emphasize relatively) 
stable locations, unstable 
> surnames (because of illegitimacy, culture, etc.), and NAI mtDNA. 
> 
> Therefore, it is more and more clear to me that I can more easily 
follow the migration 
> patterns of my paternal (Spanish) ancestors and have less of a 
chance with my maternal 
> (NAI) ancestors. Having said that, my paternal Cerros family came 
to Valparaiso in 1890 or 
> so and were essentially gone by 1920. My Felgueres family, who were 
hacendados, came 
> to Valparaiso in 1855 or so and were essentially gone by 1928. The 
maternal sides, e.g. 
> Pinedos, may have been there for centuries perhaps---I don't know.
> 
> I leave you with what Arturo Ramos had to say to me about the 
Pinedo family members 
> that we both claim; I hope he does not mind. I find the Pinedos in 
Valparaiso, Mesquitic, 
> Colotlan, amongst other "rancho" places.
> 
> "The first Pinedo arrived in Jerez from Spain the 1580s from what 
Leonardo (de la Torre)
> tells me.  The family was quite prolific there and married into 
many of the 
> wealthy families in the area, including the Calderas, De Avilas, 
etc.  
> Branches spread throughout the Jerez/Colotlan area including to 
Monte 
> Escobedo and Totatiche (my branches).  There are a number of 
ranchos around 
> Monte Escobedo called "de los Pinedos" and thus many africans and 
indiands 
> also took on the name... there was one very prolific mulato in 
Colotlan in 
> the 1700s by the name of Diego Pinedo."
> 
> Good luck. Let me know of your findings.
> 
> Ed
>