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Re: [ranchos] explanation of a ventosa

 
Janet,
 
That explains something someone said to me when she saw I had rosemary in my garden. I use rosemary for cooking especially with italian and greek dishes and always with lamb. She saw the rosemary shrub and said " tienes romero para hacer limpias" meaning "you have rosemary so you can perform cleaning rituals''. I didn't really comprehend what type of cleaning rituals she was referring to. I asked my mom but mom said in our family they did not practice any of those rituals that they were pagan rituals, just as they never did anything with the dia de los muertos either.
 
Thanks for the good info............Alicia Carrillo
                                              San Jose, Ca

Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
These are cool discussions. Does anyone ever remember what the mom's would do if the "Moiyeda" of a baby would fall? In our family if the soft spot of the top of the baby fell or became sunken I remember seeing some kind of involved procedure where a rag was placed over that soft spot on the babies head and it was moisened and the mom or woman who knew how to do it would then somehow place her mouth on or around the rag or actually on the head and gently such and do this until the Moiyeta would be restored to its proper up position. Amazing the kind of stuff we grew up with never knowing they were different than what was practiced everywhere. . .just thinking these things were normal.

joseph

Janet V. Iglesias wrote:
I remember a curandera doing the "Egg ritual" to an aunt when I was younger. They would rub the egg all over the body while praying . . . Once they had rubbed the egg completely they would crack the egg in a glass of water and read the egg. The egg would tell the curandera wether there was a curse/negativity/future reading on the person. They would finish the ritual off with herbs (rosemary & others i dont remember) rubbed all over the body again.
 
~janet in South Cali.

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Erlinda Castanon-Long
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:58 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] explanation of a ventosa


My first cousin, from Jerez Zacatecas sent me this explanation of a
ventosa so I thought I'd share it.  It's a real combination of
spiritual with physical which is old world... any comment from the
Dr. in our group?

A ventosa is as follows:  Mother would get a meduim size water
glass and pour a little alcohol  into it and swirl it in the glass;
then she would light it with a match and immediately place it on the
area where the sprain was. The heat  would cause the muscle to pull
upward into the glass and that would release the tension on it. The
glass would remain there a few seconds and then she would repeat the
procedure. My husband used to enjoy getting them whenever he had a
back problem. She used them mostly on the torso. The extremeties she
would massage with her hands after she applied an ointment. The one
thing she did not believe in was "el mal de ojo". She called that
brujerias (witchcraft). This is where they would apply a raw egg on
the body and this would do  away with " el enhechizo" ( the curse)
but, at the same time they had a lit candle and they would go back
and forth over the body while they'd pray. It was quite interesting.
I can't remember what else they'd use along with the egg. I tell you
how I regret not writing all these costumbres down.

Linda in Wa..



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