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Re: [ranchos] Re: What is a Rancho???


 
You're welcome, Maria..."puesto" is a way of saying "place".  I think it's sort of a neutral word.  At least that's how I understand it.

David Delgado  in Albany, CA

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David,<BR>
<BR>
Thanks for the explanation.&nbsp; I had been wondering about the <BR>
term &quot;Estancia&quot;.&nbsp; I've also seen &quot;Estanzuela&quot; and I would guess it <BR>
derived from the word &quot;Estancia&quot;?&nbsp; The other term I've come across <BR>
is &quot;Puesto&quot;.&nbsp; I picture that to be even smaller than a Rancho, but I <BR>
am not sure.&nbsp; I really haven't looked into it.&nbsp; Does anyone know?<BR>
<BR>
Maria Cortez<BR>
Elk Grove, CA<BR>
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--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, &quot;David P. Delgado&quot; &lt;dpdelgado@j...&gt; <BR>
wrote:<BR>
&gt; Joseph,<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; I think that the closest English equivalent of &quot;rancho&quot; is &quot;town&quot;.&nbsp; <BR>
The word town is as small and varied as the word &quot;rancho&quot;.&nbsp; A town <BR>
can be anything from a single dwelling to a formally organized group <BR>
of homes and families with formal organization.&nbsp; I think it's <BR>
important to keep in mind that some words in use today are holdovers <BR>
from long ago.&nbsp; For example, &quot;villa&quot; meant a community with at least <BR>
25 white european families as permanent residents.&nbsp; Permission had to <BR>
petitioned from the Spanish Crown to be granted such status.&nbsp; <BR>
A &quot;pueblo&quot; was a community in which biracial, white, and indigenous <BR>
people lived.&nbsp; A &quot;ranchería&quot; was a community of indigenous people <BR>
only (usually &quot;wild&quot;, i.e. unbaptized).&nbsp; The other term I have seen <BR>
while reading old documents is &quot;estancia&quot;.&nbsp; This last word refers to <BR>
a bivouac area.&nbsp; These terms and their meanings disappeared along <BR>
with the Spanish after Mexico separated from Spain.&nbsp; I think that the <BR>
word &quot;pueblo&quot; has remained in the voaculary of many people but <BR>
meaning that are different from place to place.&nbsp; I think it's really <BR>
difficult to find a simple equivalent because words change so much <BR>
over time in English as well as in Spanish.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; David Delgado in Albany, CA<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>
&gt; From: Joseph Puentes &lt;makas@n...&gt;<BR>
&gt; Sent: Jul 1, 2005 4:07 PM<BR>
&gt; To: LosRanchos &lt;ranchos@yahoogroups.com&gt;<BR>
&gt; Subject: [ranchos] What is a Rancho???<BR>
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&gt; What would the English equivelent of a rancho be????&lt;BR&gt;<BR>
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&gt; I think of it as a small, small community as in a large <BR>
neighborhood.&lt;BR&gt;<BR>
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&gt; what are others thoughts on this?&lt;BR&gt;<BR>
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