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Awhile back I sent in the story "Muchacha" attached here as well. where i was told that my great grandmother was so poor that she needed to ask another family if she could drop a bundle that carried her child in the grave with the person they were burying.

joseph

Alberto Duarte wrote:
They still bury people in that cemetery.  I saw the
grave diggers taking dirt out of an existing burial so
that it could accommodate a coffin atop of the
existing one!  Some families are so poor that they
bury relatives atop of existing coffins/sites.  

Yes, when I was inside that old cemetery I felt that I
was among my past relatives.

Alberto.

--- Erlinda Castanon-Long <longsjourney@...>
wrote:

  
The whole idea of death in the District of Jerez is
different than here stateside.  I wanted to visit
all the cemeteries I'd found in the research
records.  Our host could not understand my desire to
go to cemeteries, he said the past was the past!  He
did take us to the cemetery in Los Aros/Los Haros, I
found all the names I have been researching clear
back to the 1750's.  One could almost feel the
ancestors... I also went to the cemetery in El
Durazno.  They absolutely refused to take me to
Panteon de los Dolores in Jerez, they said enough
was enough...
 
 I did notice in Jerez that coffins are sold in
shops that display them in the window, that was
kinda shocking to me. They said when someone dies
they have to be buried within 24 hours since they
don't embalm.  In El Durazno they have the "viewing"
in the home then go to the church for the service
and then carry the coffin on their
shoulders,complete with Mariachi's if they can
afford them, and walk the 1/2 mile to the cemetery
in a procession.  I found lots of huge marble
monuments but all cemeteries were badly neglected
because they don't like to go their unless it's to
bury someone.. they do not go to visit and pay
respects. Everyone in El Durazno paid for the land
for a cemetery 20 years ago and when a family member
 dies they are "prepaid" for burial.
 
The burial practices were different in the old days
too.  They would put up to 5 people in each grave,
removing the bones to the foot of the grave and then
putting the new 'box' as it was described to me... I
was standing over a neglected Alcala grave and
noticed something round so I bent over to pick it
up, turned out to be a leg bone much to my
surprise.. After getting over the shock I moved some
dirt, reburied the bone and said a prayer for the
ancestors and me!
I would highly recommend visiting an ancestral
homesite if it's ever possible, it's very humbling
and highly emotional to walk the ground your
ancestors lived on.
Linda

zendean <usa20@...> wrote:
Margarita;
    My great grandfather and ggmother were from
Jerez, Zacatecas. I wonder, 
is it a big town ? Francisco Macias and his wife
Leonarda Ramirez are and 
have always been a mystery to me. My Aunt told me
that they visited them in 
Zacatecas when they were little and that the
Macias's lived on a farm there.
    I wonder if you know some one that is there now
that I can correspond 
with to ask about them.

Jose Macias
usa20@...




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margarita Vallazza" <TeaCozyGran@...>
To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] FOOD:Mole/Pipian/Genealogy


    
My dad's mother was from Jerez, Zacatecas, and she
      
died just before my
    
sixth birthday so I don't have a lot of memories
      
of her but here's one
    
or two:

I remember her fixing something called atole,
      
which I didn't like, but
    
remembering it from a fog of some years' distance,
      
I would say it's a
    
healthy drink.  She also had prunes in her
      
oatmeal, so when I'd pop in
    
to visit her in the morning and she had some, I'd
      
be served a dish of
    
it and enjoy it.  I liked it better than my
      
mother's porridge (which I
    
realize now was a true Scots dish).  At special
      
times, don't know what
    
they were, Abuelita would have capirotada, which I
      
didn't like too
    
well.  Remember, I was just a kid!:)

I'll have to think about some more food...some of
      
it was just the food
    
from northern Mexico that my grandfather liked--he
      
was from Chihuahua
    
city.

I wish I had had the blessing of more time with my
      
grandmother, maybe I
    
would have learned things about her family in
      
Zacatecas.  I believe
    
even she didn't know a lot about her family
      
history and I say that
    
because my Tias, dad's sisters, don't know much
      
about their mother's
    
life in Zacatecas.  I'm the one who told my Tia
      
Carmen that my abuelita
    
had a full sister named Paula, a full brother
      
named Jose (who died in
    
1919)  and 2 half-sisters and a
      
half-brother...they never knew!  People
    
in the old country NEVER discussed anything
      
private.  Marge:)
    


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