Target Area: Was- FIRST MESTIZO.

[Joseph Puentes <makas@...>]

Steve G. Apodaca wrote:

I know, this story is not from our target area. I just wanted to let 
know those who did not know how the mestizaje in Mexico started.

  

thanks for this information. I didn't know about this topic. The Target area limitation is only to do with discussion about very specific genealogy information. The information you gave was general and applied to us all and is very welcome and encouraged. Please bring up general Mexican History and facts any time you like. Also you can discuss detailed genealogy about areas outside our target area if you can relate it to our target area. For example lets say you wanted to discuss the obispado de Michoacan. . .if you look at the below you will see that during this time period it covered parts of modern day Jalisco:

Title
Partidos y padrones del obispado de Michoacán, 1680-1685

Stmnt.Resp.
Alberto Carrillo Cázares

Authors
Carrillo Cázares, Alberto (Main Author)

Notes
Este volumen presente un embozo de la población y una síntesis de la geografía histórica de todos y cada uno de los partidos de aquel Gran Michoacán que abarcaba los pueblos, villas y ciudades de los actuales estados de Guerrero, Michoacán, Colima y partes de Guanajuato, San Luis Potosí, Jalisco, y Tamaulipas en los años de 1680-1685.
This volume presents a summary of the populace and synthesis of historical geography of each and every entry of the Archdiocesis of Michoacan that includes the ecclesiastical demarcation of the towns and cities of what is now the states of Guerrero, Michoacan, Colima with parts of Guanajuato, San Luis Potosi, Jalisco, and Tamau;ipas from 1680 to 1685.
Bibliografía: p. 545-548.
Incluye índce.

Subjects
Mexico - Church history
Mexico, Michoacán - Census
Mexico, Michoacán - Church records
Mexico, Guerrero - Census
Mexico, Guerrero - Church records
Mexico, Colima - Census
Mexico, Colima - Church records
Mexico, Guanajuato - Census
Mexico, Guanajuato - Church records
Mexico, San Luis Potosí - Census
Mexico, San Luis Potosí - Church records
Mexico, Jalisco - Census
Mexico, Jalisco - Church records
Mexico, Tamaulipas - Census
Mexico, Tamaulipas - Church records

Copies
Call Number - Location - Status
972.37 K2p 1996 -  FHL INTL Book -  Available

Format
Books/Monographs

Language
Spanish

Publication
Zamora, Michigan : Colegio de Michoac�n, c1996

Physical
561 p. : il., mapa pleg.

ISBN/ISSN
9686959319

Subject Class
972.37 K2

Film Notes
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or if you wanted to talk about the Arquidiocesis de Morelia this also covered parts of Jalisco:

Title
Padrones, 1741-1831

Authors
Iglesia Católica. Arquidiócesis de Morelia (México) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el antiguo obispado de Michoacán.
El antiguo arzobispado de Morelia en una vez incluyó los estados de Michoacán, Guanajuato y Colima con partes de Guerrero, San Luis Potosí, Tamaulipas y Jalisco. Las fechas y localidades de este archivo varían de rollo a rollo y por la mayor parte no están en orden cronológico. Para información mas específica véase "Apuntes para servir a la historia del Arzobispado de Morelia", por Juan B. Buitrón, 972.37/K2b.
Parish records of membership lists with some of them including other documents.

Subjects
Mexico, Michoacán - Census
Mexico, Guanajuato - Census
Mexico, Colima - Census
Mexico, Guerrero - Census
Mexico, San Luis Potosí - Census
Mexico, Tamaulipas - Census
Mexico, Jalisco - Census

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmado por la Sociedad Geneal�gica de Utah, 1971-1973

Physical
60 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Padrones 1746 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768900 ]
Padrones 1746 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768901 ]
Padrones 1746 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768902 ]
Padrones 1747 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768920 ]
Padrones 1747 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768916 ]
Padrones 1747 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768917 ]
Padrones 1747 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768918 ]
Padrones 1741-1750 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768921 ]
Padrones 1758 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 769986 ]
Padrones 1758 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 769987 ]
Padrones 1758 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 769988 ]
Padrones 1758 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 769989 ]
Padrones 1759 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 772017 ]
Padrones 1759 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 772018 ]
Padrones 1759 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 772019 ]
Padrones 1759 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 772020 ]
Padrones 1760 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 763271 ]
Padrones 1761 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 763272 ]
Padrones 1763 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774211 ]
Padrones 1763 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774212 ]
Padrones 1763 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774213 ]
Padrones 1768 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774114 ]
Padrones 1768 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774115 ]
Padrones 1768 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774116 ]
Padrones 1769 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774139 ]
Padrones 1770 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774142 ]
Padrones 1770 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774143 ]
Padrones 1770 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774154 ]
Padrones 1770 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 774155 ]
Padrones 1792 -  FHL INTL Film [ 768821 ]
Padrones 1792 -  FHL INTL Film [ 768822 ]
Padrones 1792 -  FHL INTL Film [ 768823 ]
Padrones 1793 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 768825 ]
Padrones 1798 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 763206 ]
Padrones 1798 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 763207 ]
Padrones 1799 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 767784 ]
Padrones 1703-1796 -  FHL INTL Film [ 773538 ]
Padrones 1668-1797 -  FHL INTL Film [ 795134 ]
Padrones 1800 -  FHL INTL Film [ 795135 ]
Padrones 1800 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 795136 ]
Padrones 1801 (incluye lista de pueblos) -  VAULT INTL Film [ 795137 ]
Padrones 1801 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 795138 ]
Padrones 1802-1809 (incluye registros civiles y documentos eclesiásticos) -  VAULT INTL Film [ 795139 ]
Padrones 1803 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 795140 ]
Padrones 1803 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 795141 ]
Padrones 1804 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 795142 ]
Padrones 1804 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 795143 ]
Padrones 1804-1805 (incluye lista de pueblos) -  VAULT INTL Film [ 793876 ]
Padrones 1804-1805 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 793877 ]
Padrones 1806 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 793878 ]

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there are probably many many ways we can talk about other areas outside our target area without delving into very very specific genealogies of those areas. Also I would not have a problem at all if someone wanted to ask a general question  about another state with the request to receive replies "OFF-LIST" unless of course the information would be useful to us all.  I don't think this would be a problem but I might have to back off on this if we suddenly get overwhelmed with non-Ranchos area emails. . .I can't imagine this happening.

joseph