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RE: [ranchos] Some interesting History


 
Have you discovered why this was done?  I recall my mother being shocked that her Concuna (she & my aunt are married to brothers) bathed her only daughter in cold water, so that she would learn the "hard" life of a woman.  I'm glad that my mother didn't agree with this treatment or child abuse.  I wonder if this is the reason your ancestors did this?  By the way, my tia is descended from the Martin del Campos.
Irma


From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:10 PM
To: LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos] Some interesting History

this was sent to me by Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg. I introduce it to the group to see if anyone had things they heard of through oral history that might have been practiced in our target area of study. Let's open it even further to say have you heard any good stories of some of our customs?

In the story I send to the group awhile back called "Muchacha" about my Great Grandmother Antonia Santa Maria and my grandmother Virginia Diaz I can't help but remember that when my grandmother was born the story went that my GG Grandmother Andrea Torres ordered that two tinas of water be prepared when my grandmother was born. One was to have nice toasty warm water in case the child was a boy and the other was to be cold water in case it was a girl. Grandma Virginia got the Cold water.

what stories or customs have you heard from your relatives coming out of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and or Aguascalientes???

bring on the oral history.

thanks Maria,

joseph

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Some interesting History
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:39:19 -0800
From: Maria/Mark Uhlenburg <Uhlenburg@...>
To: PUENTES, Joseph <makas@...>


Joseph,
I thought this might be a little interesting to you. 
 
Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg
 WANT TO GO BACK IN TIME, 500 YEARS?





The  next time you are washing your hands and complain because the

water temperature  isn't just how you like it, think about how things

used to be. Here are some  facts about the 1500s:



These are interesting...



Most  people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in

May, and still  smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting

to smell, so brides  carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.

Hence the  custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.



Baths  consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house

had  the  privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and

men, then the  women and finally the children. Last of all  the babies.

By then the  water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.

Hence the saying,  "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."



Houses had  thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood

underneath. It was the only  place for animals to get warm, so all the

cats and other small animals (mice,  bugs) lived in the roof. When it

rained it became slippery and  sometimes the animals would slip and off

the roof. Hence the saying "It's  raining cats and dogs."



There was nothing to stop things from  falling into the house. This

posed a real  problem in the bedroom where bugs and  other droppings

could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts  and

a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection.  That's  how

canopy beds came into existence.



The floor was dirt. Only the  wealthy had something other than dirt.

Hence the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy  had slate floors that would

get slippery in the winter when wet , so they spread  thresh (straw)

on the floor to help keep their  footing. As the winter wore on, they

kept adding more thresh until when you opened the door it would all

start slipping  outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway.

Hence the  saying a "thresh hold."



(Getting quite an education, aren't  you?)



In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big  kettle that

always  hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things

to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get  much  meat.

They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in  the pot to get

cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew  had

food in it that had been there for quite a while.  Hence the rhyme:

"Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine

days  old."



Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special.

When  visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off.

It was a sign of wealth that a man could "bring home the bacon." They

would cut off  a little to share with guests and would all sit around

and "chew the fat."



Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content

caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning

death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years

or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.



Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of

the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper

crust."



Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The  combination would

sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking

along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.

They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of  days and the

family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if  they

would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake."



England  is old and small and the local folks started running out of

places to bury  people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the

bones to a "bone-house"  and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins,

1 out of 25  coffins were  found to have scratch marks on the inside and

they realized they  had been  burying people alive. So they would tie a

string on the wrist of the corpse,  lead it through the coffin and up

through the ground and tie it to a  bell. Someone would have to sit out

in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the

bell; thus, someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a

"dead ringer."





And that's  the truth... Now , whoever said that History was

boring ! !  !