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Oiyes,
oiganme! Oiganme! OIGANME!!!
?que no entienden? ?Que No Entienden? ?QUE NO ENTIENDEN?
please change the subject heading to
properly reflect the content of the message
. . .for this example something like: Tlachichila
History-Was: New file uploaded to ranchos. that way in the future if we
want to use the search engine to find a particular message in the
archives we can look for it. . .otherwise we'll have a bunch with this
"Re: New file uploaded to ranchos" as the subject and no clue what the
topic was.
8^)
con cariño para todos. . bueno avecen cuando!,
joseph. . . .
ps: Alicia. . .perdon pero tu fuiste la lana que quebro la espalda de
este burro! But don't let my very mild rebuff hinder you from
continuing to post messages. . .as always my bark is worse than my
mordida.
Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Guillermo,
Here's a piece I sent to Joseph off-line a while
back. As you will see General Santa Ana loved to punish the states by
dividing and conquering just as in your piece of history about
Aguascalientes.
Tlachichila is in La Sierra de Nochistlan, the last town in the
area. It's 7,230 ft above sea level so it's at the highest point of
that Sierra. There's a quote in Nochistlan's bio that says this is a
small region and rather isolated. There was a famous battle with the
French so for those who say the french did not settle here or come near
this area they are wrong. Nochistlan de Mejia as it is known was named
after General Mejia who led the defeat of the french invading army.
Nochistlan is in the southernmost region of Zacatecas and at one
time it was part of Jalisco. General Santa Ana in retribution to the
leaders of this region for not supporting him, punished the citizens of
Nochistlan by changing the boundaries. He made it fit within the state
of Zacatecas. On the Northern border of Nochistlan is Teocaltiche
Jalisco about an hour away and on the south is Yahaulica Jalisco also
about an hour away.
Also in the town's bio is a quote that says, due to the high
Mountainous region, the isolation of this area and the small size, it
is thought that most everyone is inter-related after several centuries
of intermarriages between the families. "Go Figure, I knew that". Based
on all that I've heard and read we who come from those towns are each
other's primos several times over. No wonder we're crazy!
Alicia
Guillermo Valdez <valhdez@...> wrote:
The
story of Mexico during the 1800's was a constant
fight among two factions: the "Federalistas" (who
seeked more freedom for states to govern themselves)
and the "Centralistas" (who wanted the power in Mexico
City having more control over the states). At one
point, Zacatecas stood as Federalista and Santa Anna's
"Centralista" government punished the state by taking
a chunk of the state and creating the tiny state of
Aguscalientes.
This strong division during the 19th Century presented
a weaker Mexico to invasions (hence the two biggest
defeats of that time by the U.S. in the 1840's, where
we lost have of our territory and by France in the
1860's, where we had to suffer a european emperor,
Maximiliano, enforced by a french army, until Napoleon
(the III) recall the army and Maximiliano was
executed).
Guillermo Valdez
--- Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...> wrote:
> A little bit of history....
> These two states are not only next to each other,
> Aguascalientes was once part of Zacatecas!
> Approximately in 1845, the President, or dictator,
> of
> Mexico, Santa Ana, punished Zacatecas for being to
> independent by taking Aguascalientes away from them.
>
>
> There was a liberal movement in Zacatecas against
> Santa Ana led by Francisco Garcia Salinas, an
> ancestor
> from Jerez, that antagonized Santa Ana. So he
> punished
> them by taking away Aguascalientes from them and
> making it a state.
>
> Poor Mexico, this was just one of the many disasters
> that would happen to Mexico and its people for the
> next 160 years.
>
> Alberto Duarte Prieto.
> --- MGM8938@... wrote:
>
> > Dear Angie:
&! gt; >
> > Whoever you are...wow...wow..wow!!!
> >
> > Thank you so much. Short note, I accidently found
> > all these ancestors in
> > Salt Lake City. When I put in the state I put
> Aguas
> > instead of Zac...which is
> > what I was always told that the Alvares came
> > from....well...as we know Zac and
> > Aguas are close....on the map...this is how I
> found
> > so many
> > generations.....very good.
> >
> > I am so excited......
> >
> > Mickey
> >
>
>
>
>
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