Re: [ranchos] Re: DNA Results

[Joseph Puentes <makas@...>]

vela_este wrote:

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
  

Amazing things continue to happen. . .its the new year and I just got 
back from a most remarkable weekend in Atlanta. . .its amazing how even 
an abundance of alcohol can't keep me from thinking about genealogy. 
Seems that every barmaid was a possible cousin once I found out what her 
historical ethnic roots were and compared them with my recent 
multinational DNA results. Yes a most remarkable weekend in Atlanta!

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Multinational DNA results???

Would you mind elaborating a little bit more on this.  I have decided to take a DNA test myself and I'm very interested in your opinions.

Victor

Well I'm going to be brief and then refer you to Gary Felix: http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index63.htm also within this group Angel Cervantes is very capable of talking circles around me.

What I meant was that I found inidications (markers) that seem to indicate multinational ethnicity:

Recent Ethnic Origins

Welcome to the database of RECENT ETHNIC ORIGINS (REO). The results below show the ethnic origin of those you match or nearly match in the REO. The ethnic origin information is provided by each testee, and is only as accurate as the testee's knowledge. Testees are instructed to answer "Unknown Origin" when their ancestor's origin is uncertain or not known.

Incorrect origins provided by testees may lead to search results that do not seem logical. For example: Assume your ancestors are from England, but your search results show the ethnic origin of your matches as England, France, AND one match shows an origin of Native American. Does that mean that your ancestors relatives may have lived in England and France? Yes. Does it mean that your ancestor was also a Native American? No. This means that a settler in America had a child with a Native American woman, the child was brought up as a Native American, and that, over time, the family has "forgotten" the European ancestor, and believe their ancestry to be Native American.

Over the span of generations people tend to move, as do borders, so nationality or ethnicticity becomes subjective. For example, testees may enter Germany for ethnic origin, because the land of their ancestors is Germany today, but the land could have been held by Denmark for many centuries.

To see how your ethnic origin is recorded in our database, click on the link above entitled Update Contact Information. You may also update your paternal and maternal ethnic origin on the Update Contact Information page.

Exact matches show people who are the closest to you genetically. The Ethnic origin shows where they have reported to have lived. Since many persons migrated over the past few centuries, you will typically see matches in more than one country.

For information purposes, the Recent Ethnic Origin search also displays results for those who are near matches. A near match is either one step or two steps from your result. An exact match is 12/12 or 25/25. A one step match is 11/12 or 24/25 and the magnitude of the mismatch is 1. A two step match is 10/12 or 23/25 and the magnitude of both mismatches is 1, or it is 11/12 or 24/25 and the magnitude of the mismatch is 2. Near matches show where those who are distantly related to you have migrated over time.

12 Marker Y-DNA Matches
One Step Mutations
Country (Number of Entries)	Comment	Your Matches
Austria (49)	-	1
England (4090)	-	2
Ireland (1476)	-	3
Scotland (1326)	-	3
United Kingdom (642)	-	1
Unknown Origin	-	12
Wales (216)	-	1
Two Step Mutations
Country (Number of Entries)	Comment	Your Matches
Belgium (22)	-	4
Belgium (22)	Flanders	1
Bohemia (22)	-	1
British Isles (137)	-	2
Canada (44)	-	1
England (4090)	-	25
France (283)	-	5
Germany (1082)	-	6
Great Britain (203)	-	1
Ireland (1476)	-	25
Northern Ireland (80)	-	1
Poland (271)	-	2
Scotland (1326)	-	28
Shetland (117)	-	2
Spain (197)	-	3
Sweden (107)	-	1
United Kingdom (642)	-	6
Unknown Origin	-	82
Wales (216)	-	4
25 Marker Y-DNA Matches
3 Step Mutations
Country (Number of Entries)	Comment	Your Matches
Unknown Origin	-	3
37 Marker Y-DNA Matches

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Haplogroup

The predicted results below compare your Family Tree DNA Y-DNA STR test with the world-wide database of Dr. Hammer and customers who have had their SNP tested by us. The comparative Haplogroups shown below were confirmed by SNP(Single Nucleotide Polymorphism) tests at Dr. Hammer's lab, which uses the YCC nomenclature. Haplogroups represent fractures in the tree and are tied to deep ancestry (think 10,000 or 10's of 1000's of years) and are shown in the human Phylogenetic tree. Please note that countries in this database are listed by the place one came from or currently lives. The value therefore is that it tells researches about migratory patterns, and gives information about the age of the ‘group’ of people -- after all, everyone on the tree that isn’t in Haplogroup A and B have lived outside of Africa for at least 60,000 years - and the story is how you got where you live now.

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12 Marker Y-DNA Matches
One Step Mutations
Haplogroup	Country	Comment	Count
R1b	Austria	-	1
R1b	Unknown Origin	-	1
Two Step Mutations
Haplogroup	Country	Comment	Count
R1b	Bohemia	-	1
R1b	England	-	1
R1b	France	-	1
R1b	Poland	-	1
R1b	Scotland	-	1
R1b	Spain	-	1
R1b	Sweden	-	1
R1b	Unknown Origin	-	3
3 Step Mutations
Haplogroup	Country	Comment	Count
R1b	Austria	-	2
R1b	Belarus	Ashkenazi	1
R1b	Denmark	-	1
R1b	England	-	4
R1b	England	Anglo-Celt	1
R1b	Finland	-	1
R1b	France	-	2
R1b	Iceland	-	2
R1b	Ireland	-	3
R1b	Italy	-	3
R1b	Netherlands	Ashkenazi-Levite	1
R1b	Polynesia	Polynesian (European admixture)	1
R1b	Portugal	-	1
R1b	Russia	-	1
R1b	Shetland	-	4
R1b	Spain	-	1
R1b	Spain	Andalusia	1
R1b	Spain	Basque	1
R1b	Unknown Origin	-	3
R1b	Wales	-	1
4 Step Mutations
Haplogroup	Country	Comment	Count
R1b	Austria	-	1
R1b	Denmark	-	2
R1b	England	-	8
R1b	England	Isle of Man	3
R1b	France	-	7
R1b	Germany	-	5
R1b	Iceland	-	7
R1b	Ireland	-	6
R1b	Italy	-	1
R1b	Netherlands	-	1
R1b	Northern Ireland	-	2
R1b	Norway	-	1
R1b	Polynesia	European admixture	3
R1b	Polynesia	Polynesian (European admixture)	8
R1b	Portugal	-	3
R1b	Romania	Ashkenazi	1
R1b	Russia	-	3
R1b	Russia	Native Siberian	1
R1b	Scotland	-	6
R1b	Shetland	-	2
R1b	Spain	-	3
R1b	Spain	Basque	1
R1b	Sweden	-	4
R1b	Switzerland	-	1
R1b	Syria	Arab	3
R1b	United Kingdom	-	1
R1b	Unknown Origin	-	14
Haplogroup Descriptions
R1b  Haplogroup R1b is the most common haplogroup in European populations. It is believed to have expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago. This lineage is also the haplogroup containing the Atlantic modal haplotype.
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