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Re: [ranchos] Re: Father's paranthetical name


 
Hi Arturo:
 
Commonly in the case of erroneous write in the manuscript records, the information that appear between parenthesis is a error then, next to the close parenthesis (or between rows), should appear the correction; in this case: "Telésforo Gutiérrez" is the truly father of the principal. In other cases, I had found some corrections to the erroneous data with the "digo" word to meaning that the previous word, or words writhed in the record are bad, and the word or words next to the "digo" is the correction.
 
JRGL.
 

Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@...> escribió:
I had run across this before with another record that I must have not
gotten a copy of and if I remember correctly, I think your first
theory is correct Jose.

In this record, Jose Maria Miramontes appears as the padrino later in
the record, along with his wife.  I think that what happened was that
perhaps the padrinos went to baptize the child without the father and
the sacristan must have written down the wrong name on whatever he
was recording on and then the priest corrected the record when he
wrote it into the book?  Is this the way the process works?

In the other record, the grandfather is erroneously listed as the
father (in parenthesis) and then appears as the maternal
grandfather.  I think that once the priest started writing out the
whole record, he must have run across the conflicting information and
corrected it, but left in the paranthetical name to match the
original information that was taken at the actual ceremony...

The baptismal record is from 1907 in Totatiche, Jalisco.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, jose munoz <jmunoz2781@y...> wrote:
>
> A "WILD GUESS" only...
> From personal experience my opinion is:
>
> Jose Maria Miramontes was a probable padrino
> erroneously mentioned before the baptized legitimate
> parents... thus ( ).
>
> Jose Maria Miramontes could of been the father, died,
> and the viuda remarried prior to childs birth.
>
> Jose Maria Miramontes may have been related to Maria
> Guadalupe De Luna. I make this statement based on a
> theory,,, relations of the Miramontes and De Luna from
> Tlaltenango, Zacatecas in the first half of the 17th
> century:
>
> What time frame is your bautismo record?
>
>
> --- Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@v...> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone run across this or have an inkling of
> > what it might mean?
> >
> > ...que nacio en Santa Cruz, el dia veintiseis del
> > corriente a las once
> > de la manana a la que puse por nombre Luisa, hija
> > legitima de (Jose
> > Maria Miramontes) Telesforo Gutierrez y Maria
> > Guadalupe de Luna. 
> > Abuelos paternos Catarino y Anastacia Jara...
> >
> > Who is this man Jose Maria Miramontes and what is
> > his relation to this
> > baptism?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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