Re: Jonathan's Film File-was-file uploaded to ranchos

["readysetgo95814" <mcortez3@...>]

Mary,

Depending on the type of record you have at home it may not be as 
accurate as the baptismal record. For the purpose of establishing a 
date of birth a baptismal record would be considered the primary 
source, than say a death record. The person giving the deceased's 
date of birth for the death certificate was anyone but the deceased, 
so they could easily make a mistake.  The spelling of the name 
(Refugio vs. Refugia) I wouldn't be too concerned with either.  I've 
seen records where the priest writes the name two different ways in 
the same record!  If all the names and the place and time period 
match up, then it is likely the same Petra Romero you are researching.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen <mary.allen3770@s...> 
wrote:
>
> I actually do have that record and I have been studying it because 
in records at home I found her birthdate as June 8, 1873.  Perhaps 
the 1872 date is incorrect.    I recall as a girl that she would 
insist she was indeed from  "Salinas" not "Sabinas??"   Everything 
else matches except that her mom's name is spelled Refugio on the 
paper work I have found, mostly handwritten notes here and there. I 
also have her death certificate. And that's about it.   Thank you so 
much, Jose.       Mary (Garana) Allen
> 
> jose munoz <jmunoz2781@y...> wrote:Mary Allen, do you have this 
record?
> 
> IGI Individual Record FamilySearch? International
> Genealogical Index v5.0 
>   Mexico 
> PETRA ROMERO GONZALES  
>   Female 
> Event(s): 
> Birth:  
> Christening:  27 MAY 1872   Nuestro Padre Jesus,
> Salinas Del Penon Blanco, San Luis Potosi, Mexico
> 
> Parents: 
>   Father:  VICTOR ROMERO  Family 
>   Mother:  REFUGIA GONZALES 
> 
> Source Information: 
> Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout
> Call No.:  Type:  
> 
> Batch: K601881  1864 - 1875  Film #0708217  
> 
> Just Curious
> 
> Jose Munoz
> Yuba City, Ca.
> 
> 
> --- Mary Allen <mary.allen3770@s...> wrote:
> 
> > Jonathan, you are so kind and encouraging.
> >  
> > I am especially concerned about my grandfather  Jose
> > Adalberto Garana.  This is all I know about him:  
> > He was born in 1873 in Mexico but I don't know
> > where. I don't know his father's name but I believe
> > his mother was Maria Garana. This leads me to
> > believe that his father's name was something else. 
> > He was educated by the Augustinians and the Jesuits.
> >    He married Petra Romero Gonzalez of Salinas, SLP,
> > probably in 1904 and lived in San Luis Potosi, SLP, 
> > and had a son in 1905 and daughters in 1907 and
> > 1911.  In 1917 he crossed through El Paso with his
> > wife and three children and others hired to work on
> > the Santa Fe railroad.  They went to Fort Madison,
> > Iowa.  I find him again in 1921 in San Antonio, Tx. 
> > He died in Corpus Christi, Tx in 1958.   
> >  
> > Of my great grandfather I have found even less. 
> > Victor Romero married Refugio Gonzalez and had a
> > daughter Petra Romero Gonzalez in 1873 in Salinas,
> > SLP.  I have found a photo of him dated 1894 with a
> > woman identified as his wife, who  is not Refugio
> > Gonzalez.This much I know from Petra herself whom I
> > knew.     That's it.  That's all I have been able to
> > find out.
> >  
> > I am still digging but if you can help me I will be
> > so grateful.  I found a photo of a nun, dated 1967. 
> > I sent copies to my nun friends and one of them took
> > the photo to Mexico City and actually found the nun,
> > alive, alert and 93.  I am planning to go very soon
> > to visit with her.  I believe she may be the child
> > of the woman in the photo with Don Victor.  I will
> > let you know what I find.
> > 
> > Mary Garana Allen
> > mexicanfhr <jonathan@m...> wrote:
> > Mary,
> > 
> > If you could tell me, the names and what
> > information, that you have on
> > the grandfathers, that you are searching for.  I'll
> > see if I can find
> > anything.
> > 
> > Also, to all of the Ranchos members,  if you have
> > elusive ancestor,
> > send me the information.  And I will see, if I can
> > find anything.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jonathan
> > 
> > 
> > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen
> > <mary.allen3770@s...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, Jonathan:  I am one of the newer members,
> > not only in Ranchos
> > but in the whole genealogy experience itself. I have
> > been working
> > steadily for about nine years and made a lot of
> > "progress" but was
> > striking out in all directions and actually don't
> > even know if I was
> > running into ancestors or not.  Then I ran into
> > Ranchos and it put the
> > whole thing into focus.  Now I am rather excited
> > because by sending
> > out copies of an unidentified photo, I actually have
> > my first "hit".
> > It is a living person, 93 years old, who is the
> > granddaughter of the
> > very man I was looking up.  I may really need some
> > help later but in a
> > couple of weeks I am flying to Mexico City to meet
> > this person who is
> > willing to receive me.  I will see what she can give
> > me; I understand
> > she is very alert.    I definitely will need help
> > with the other
> > grandfather who absolutely hides from  me:  The
> > secret may be in Salt
> > Lake City.   I have ordered some of the films,
> > waited a very long time
> > to receive them only to realize I
> > >  had not been careful in calculating the time
> > line.
> > > I read every e-mail emanating from Ranchos and 
> > you  with relish! 
> > It is almost as if I am sitting on the sidelines
> > listening to you
> > speak to each other.  Exciting.   One day I hope to
> > have something to
> > say.     Mary Garana Allen
> > > 
> > > mexicanfhr <jonathan@m...> wrote:
> > > Sorry, for the confusion, that my uploading of my
> > file has caused.  I
> > > created my file, with wordperfect (meaning, that I
> > have never used
> > > excel yet.)  I just wanted to share with the
> > group, what films and
> > > other resources, that the FHC, here in Logan has. 
> > Because I only do
> > > about 25% of my research, that the Logan Family
> > History Center.  The
> > > other 75% of my research, is done at the Family
> > History Library, in
> > > Salt Lake.  so, in reality, I have access, to all
> > the films that the
> > > Family History Library has, and it does not cost
> > me anything, to order
> > > them.
> > > 
> > > Thus saying that, I can say if, anyone needs a
> > occasional lookup, they
> > > can contact me, and see when I will be in Salt
> > Lake. And can do the
> > > Lookup. 
> > > 
> > > Also, if there are other group members, here in
> > Utah.  That may be
> > > able to help, with lookups at the FHL.
> > > 
> > > Jonathan
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes
> > <makas@n...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you are using Excel then why can't it be that
> > we all create Excel 
> > > > files and upload them once into the files area.
> > It seems that asking
> > > you 
> > > > to do double the work by re-entering them into
> > the database in
> > Ranchos 
> > > > is punishment for a good deed. then again maybe
> > I'm missing
> > something. 
> > > > Is there an advantage to this particular data
> > base in the databases
> > > over 
> > > > an excel file in the files area?
> > > > 
> > > > I think the only difference is that for some
> > they won't do it unless 
> > > > encouraged by Maria to participate in the one in
> > the databases (me
> > > being 
> > > > an example. . .yes I hear the message and will
> > be working on my own 
> > > > excel file sometime in the near future, but i'm
> > so sorry to say that 
> > > > truthfully I hardly get into the FHC anymore for
> > my own personal 
> > > > research and all I'll do is be a big tease by
> > putting my films up
> > > giving 
> > > > the impression I'll be able to do look ups. .
> > .well I' might be
> > able to 
> > > > do a few, especially if Kitty or Rich or
> > Jonathan were to ask for
> > some).
> > > > 
> > > > Here is my definition of a look up though:
> > "Providing a photocopy or 
> > > > scan of a persons requested record if the
> > researcher is provided with 
> > > > the complete name (first and last) and the date
> > of the occasion (no 
> > > > approximates)."
> > > > 
> > > > thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > joseph
> > > > 
> > > > mexicanfhr wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Maria,
> > > > >
> > > > >I will try and use your database, when I have
> > the chance.  My
> > > > >situation is that I am using over 300 films,
> > right now and I am just
> > > > >barely getting them, into my database.  So
> > once, that is done.  I'll
> > > > >work on putting them, into your database.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
> 
> 
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