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Re: [ranchos] New Towns in My Research: Mazapil and Jerez (Monte Escobedo), Zacatecas


 
Oh, my gosh, Connie,
I was in El Paso for 2 days as of the 11th and just left this morning! I went to visit my sisters, one of whom is recuperating in a hospital! Wow! How interesting it would have been to talk on the phone a wee bit. Marge:)
On Oct 11, 2005, at 12:17 AM, Connie Dominguez wrote:

<x-tad-smaller>Alicia,</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>I worked for about a year at the beginning, with very few breakthroughs, but just enough tidbits to keep my appetite going. My early research taught me many things the hard way – lots of experience from mistakes.   As I moved into my second year of research, I realized that this was definitely not going to be a piece of cake.  While there were a few dates & such that I came across, I found much less than I had anticipated.   </x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>But I resolved two things:  First, to learn about everything I could while I was on this ride…even if it wasn’t directly involved with my ancestors; and second, to consider each ‘dead end’ a wonderful confirmation of where my ancestor WASN’T. I just scratched that town or date off the list & kept on with the next one.  It made for a different perspective…and cemented my commitment to this lifelong journey.  No longer was I in a desperate hurry to find the elusive baptismal or the mysterious ranch.  Instead I saved every piece of info I found…and saved a lot of tidbits of history in memory….in hopes that someday these would be of use. </x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Equally importantly, since this was something I felt I’d be doing for the rest of my life…I began to focus my attention on being thorough and methodical.  Not only are these key skills, but it changes your focus from “I’m looking for this event on this day” to “I’m looking through this film or book, to see if I find anything remotely related to this event.”  I found so much when I broadened my perspective in this manner.  Especially in a concentrated area like Los Altos, it behooves one to take a film for a year of interest and just start reading each entry.  You’d be surprised how much you can piece together, and how many relatives pop up as witnesses or padrinos or hacienda owners in entries for surnames you never would have looked at if you were just searching for your ancestors’ names.</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Over time this definitely proved true.  After about 7 or 8 years, I can’t say my tree is extensive, but I do have a lot of information – some of it just waiting for me to find its place in the puzzle.  Late in my 2</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller>nd</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller> year, I ran into someone (a fellow researcher – Jose Luis Vazquez) who was key in giving form to my research and in helping me see the big picture.  His work turned me on to many new resources and opened my eyes to so many new possibilities. I owe a lot of my progress to him, and to other researchers that came before such as Jaime Holcombe, Mariano Gonzalez-Leal, etc.  In fact, several of my years have been dedicated to doing research that has very little direct use to my family trees, but will be helpful to others – whenever I can get around to completing it.</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller> </x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>This group is a wonderful resource. It provides access to so many other resources and so much experience in a specific area.  There’s so much potential for success when people are working cooperatively.</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller> </x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>Never be discouraged! There’s just no time to be discouraged – there’s too much to do – too many stones yet unturned!</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller> </x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>Just thought I’d share my perspective.</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Take care,</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Connie</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller> </x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>Connie Dominguez</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>10537 Candlewood Dr.</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>El Paso, TX  79925</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>(915) 799-6036</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>cdominguez10@...</x-tad-smaller>
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<x-tad-smaller>-----Original Message-----</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>From:</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller> ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] </x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller>On Behalf Of </x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller>Alicia Carrillo</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>Sent:</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller> Monday, October 10, 2005 11:05 AM</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>To:</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller> ranchos@yahoogroups.com</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>Subject:</x-tad-smaller><x-tad-smaller> Re: [ranchos] New Towns in My Research: Mazapil and Jerez (Monte Escobedo), Zacatecas</x-tad-smaller>
 
Arturo,
 
I have to say congratulations, I'm very happy for you and at the same time a little envious of your accomplishments. How long have you been researching your ancestry that you have gotten this far back in time? I think for those of us who think we are not getting there as fast as we'd like or making as much progress as others seemingly are making, we'd like to know and get an approximate time of reference so as not to get too discouraged. We need a little encouragement. I not only put that question out to you but to the rest of the group.
 
Another question to the group is how many of you are doing lateral research. By lateral I mean across one time span say in a 50 year range. I'll give an example 1900-1950 which is where I'm focusing on now. This would include aunts and uncles, their children, spouses and descendants. For me at least it makes it very interesting to be able to put a face with the names. Another reason I'm doing this is because our area of research is so small that everyone in these towns was related several times over and I many times by way of conversations get the sense that we were related in more ways than we can even begin to imagine. They will or would say, "oh yeah my tia was related to your tio" and I was always left wondering whether it was true and if true how was that possible.
 
Anyway just curious to see how others are doing their research and again congratulations and I wishing you many more breakthroughs. I know how exciting it is when you make a dent in that brick wall.
 
Sinceramente, Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
 
I myself am not only going back in time but because I know of many present family lines am working laterally in addition to just going back in time.

Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@...> wrote:
<x-tad-smaller>This weekend I looked through the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara (which</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>by the way is an incredible resource that everyone should look at if</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>you have traced your lineages going back as far as the 1700s) and made</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>a couple of breakthroughs.  These have taken my research to some new</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>towns, namely Mazapil, Zacatecas and Jerez (most likely the area around</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>Monte Escobedo) and I would like to find out who is doing research in</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>these places and any hints that would be useful.</x-tad-smaller>

<x-tad-smaller>The breakthroughs are as follows:</x-tad-smaller>

<x-tad-smaller>Juan Antonio ARANZAZU was born in 1696 in Mazapil, Zacatecas,</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>illegitimate son of Captain Antonio DE LA BARREDA and Isabel DE PIERO. </x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>He later moved to Guadalajara, where he was raised and schooled by Sr.</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>Doctor Don Joseph DE MIRANDA VILLAYZAN of the Consejo de su Majestad,</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>Oidor de la Real Audiencia de Nueva Galicia.</x-tad-smaller>

<x-tad-smaller>(Juan) Joseph PINEDO GAMBOA was most likely born in Monte Escobedo and</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>baptized in Jerez circa 1700 (though I can't find his baptismal record</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>in VRI... looks like some years are missing), son of Lorenso PINEDO and</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>Josepha GAMBOA.  He later moved to Juanacatic, Totatiche, Jalisco and</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>he and his sons continued to marry into families from Monte Escobedo</x-tad-smaller>
<x-tad-smaller>(ROMERO and ROJAS)</x-tad-smaller>



 

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