Re: Sagrada Mitra records

["readysetgo95814" <mcortez3@...>]

Alicia,

I am one of those lucky ones who have gotten back that far.  The 
thing that helped me is that one of my relatives had done some 
research prior to me starting mine.  She gave me copies of certified 
baptismal records for 5 generations back.  That helped with one of my 
grandparent's lineage.  Then, I delved into the Sagrada Mitra records 
and found one dispensa that gave me 5 generations for one couple.  
The dispensa is 24 pages long and includes interviews of at least 5 
individuals.  The marriage took place in 1735.  That dispensa gave me 
my big breakthrough when I borrowed a copy of Retoños de España en la 
Nueva Galicia and found several of my lines going back to the 
1500's!  Needless to say, that was a very exciting moment for me.  

I have several genealogy books, but in my opinion, there isn't a 
single book that is as comprehensive as Retoños (vol 2) for those of 
us researching roots in Nueva Galicia.  I am anxiously awaiting for 
the new editions which the author (Lic. Mariano Gonzalez-Leal) is 
working on presently.  The first edition of Vol 1 & 2 are out of 
print. I borrowed my copy from the California State Library.

I guess the moral of the story is: don't rely solely on microfilm for 
research.  Look for books containing published genealogies in your 
area of research and ask family members for whatever records they may 
have.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote:
>
> Arturo,
>  
> I have to say congratulations, I'm very happy for you and at the 
same time a little envious of your accomplishments. How long have you 
been researching your ancestry that you have gotten this far back in 
time? I think for those of us who think we are not getting there as 
fast as we'd like or making as much progress as others seemingly are 
making, we'd like to know and get an approximate time of reference so 
as not to get too discouraged. We need a little encouragement. I not 
only put that question out to you but to the rest of the group.
>  
> Another question to the group is how many of you are doing lateral 
research. By lateral I mean across one time span say in a 50 year 
range. I'll give an example 1900-1950 which is where I'm focusing on 
now. This would include aunts and uncles, their children, spouses and 
descendants. For me at least it makes it very interesting to be able 
to put a face with the names. Another reason I'm doing this is 
because our area of research is so small that everyone in these towns 
was related several times over and I many times by way of 
conversations get the sense that we were related in more ways than we 
can even begin to imagine. They will or would say, "oh yeah my tia 
was related to your tio" and I was always left wondering whether it 
was true and if true how was that possible.
>  
> Anyway just curious to see how others are doing their research and 
again congratulations and I wishing you many more breakthroughs. I 
know how exciting it is when you make a dent in that brick wall.
>  
> Sinceramente, Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
>  
> I myself am not only going back in time but because I know of many 
present family lines am working laterally in addition to just going 
back in time.
> 
> Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@v...> wrote:
> This weekend I looked through the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara 
(which 
> by the way is an incredible resource that everyone should look at 
if 
> you have traced your lineages going back as far as the 1700s) and 
made 
> a couple of breakthroughs.  These have taken my research to some 
new 
> towns, namely Mazapil, Zacatecas and Jerez (most likely the area 
around 
> Monte Escobedo) and I would like to find out who is doing research 
in 
> these places and any hints that would be useful.
> 
> The breakthroughs are as follows:
> 
> Juan Antonio ARANZAZU was born in 1696 in Mazapil, Zacatecas, 
> illegitimate son of Captain Antonio DE LA BARREDA and Isabel DE 
PIERO.  
> He later moved to Guadalajara, where he was raised and schooled by 
Sr. 
> Doctor Don Joseph DE MIRANDA VILLAYZAN of the Consejo de su 
Majestad, 
> Oidor de la Real Audiencia de Nueva Galicia.
> 
> (Juan) Joseph PINEDO GAMBOA was most likely born in Monte Escobedo 
and 
> baptized in Jerez circa 1700 (though I can't find his baptismal 
record 
> in VRI... looks like some years are missing), son of Lorenso PINEDO 
and 
> Josepha GAMBOA.  He later moved to Juanacatic, Totatiche, Jalisco 
and 
> he and his sons continued to marry into families from Monte 
Escobedo 
> (ROMERO and ROJAS)
> 
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