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Re: mtDNA and other DNA


 

Victor,

Thanks for the wonderful explanation on DNA. It didn't come across as patronizing at all.

I have a question about something you stated for you or anyone else who may know the answer:  "Since we're not clones, half of those 46 chromosomes come from each of  our progenitors. 23 from the father and 23 from the mother to make 23 pairs..."

My brother is taking both the yDNA and the mtDNA tests.  I was thinking that since we come from the same set of parents there would be no benefit to having my DNA analyzed, but after reading the above I am thinking otherwise.  Perhaps it would be more valuable to have a great uncle or aunt from both sides of the family (since all my grandparents are dead) have their DNA analyzed. 

Maria


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...> wrote:
>
> Josie,
>
> At the risk of oversimplifying this whole thing, I'm posting a few
> essential concepts about DNA. Please excuse me if I sound patronizing.
>
> We all have heard that DNA is the blueprint of life. And it is! Or
> to be more exact, each organism's DNA is its own blueprint of life.
> Just think how it is possible to clone an animal (make an exact
> genetic replica) from the DNA found in the nucleus of a single cell.
> And notice that in theory a clone could be made from practically every
> cell in the body, as most cells have a copy of all their DNA, their
> full genome.
>
> Although each cell with a nucleus has their full genome it only has a
> small section of it activated, the specific section that contains the
> instructions that each cell must carry out. Imagine a huge theater
> performance with many, many actors, where every actor has a copy of
> the whole script but some actors only have to read a few lines or a
> few pages at most. So it is with cells; each one has differentiated
> to play a specific role in the body.
>
> We could say, for practical purposes, that for each cell's role or
> function a set of instructions are written and stored in a gene.
> There are many things that cells do and therefore there are many
> genes. These genes in turn are packaged into chromosomes of which
> human cells have 46. These cells with 46 chromosomes are called
> diploid cells.
>
> Since we're not clones, half of those 46 chromosomes come from each of
> our progenitors. 23 from the father and 23 from the mother to make 23
> pairs. Every chromosome is of equal size to its pair except in males
> where the 23rd pair or the XY is an uneven pair. There's a section in
> the Y chromosome that is unmatched in the X chromosome and it is
> called a non-recombining section or segment.
>
> Like I said above, every cell in the body has two sets of chromosomes
> or a total of 46, but there's an exception: reproductive cells.
> Reproductive cells only carry 23 single chromosomes or half the number
> of other cells and they are called haploid cells. But each of these
> chromosomes in reproductive cells are a combination of the
> corresponding chromosome pair in diploid cells.
>
> Since Y chromosome has an unmatched segment that doesn't recombine
> with the X chromosome, this segment passes almost unaltered from
> generation to generation (but only in the male line or patrilineal
> ancestry). These non recombining sections of the Y chromosome are
> what genetic labs analyze in the now famous YDNA tests.
>
> The other 22 pairs of chromosomes or the autosomal DNA from both
> progenitors do recombine and shuffle their genes before creating a
> single set of chromosomes in reproductive cells. In other words, out
> of our full genetic material our reproductive cells can only carry on
> and pass to our children half of it. But in contrast to what we
> receive: half from our mother and half from our father, we do not
> necessarily pass on to our progeny the same proportions we receive
> from each. And furthermore, each reproductive cell can have a
> different proportion or combination of genetic material from our
> progenitors, otherwise all our children would be identical. Makes
> sense? That is why it is so difficult to trace the genetic lineage of
> any other of our ancestors besides the Y lineage. Yet, we can tell
> when a child gets a trait from his/her grandpa or her/his grandma, etc.
>
> Mitochondrial DNA is a whole different story. To start with, some
> people think that mtDNA is part of our chromosomes but it is not. Like
> chromosomal DNA, mtDNA is also in the cells but it is found only in
> the protoplasm not in the nucleus. Mitochondrial DNA is not strictly
> human. Biologists believe that millions of years ago human cells and
> mitochondrial cells created a symbiosis or mutually beneficial
> association. Human cells provide the nutrients mitochondria need and
> these in turn provide the energy the human cells need to carry out all
> their functions. None can live without the other.
>
> I started out saying that DNA is the blueprint of life and I was
> referring to chromosomal DNA from both parents. But to build a human
> being, like building a house or anything else, you not only need a
> blueprint but also the raw materials and a lot of energy. These raw
> materials and energy always come from the mother, because only females
> get pregnant and give birth. In fecundation and conception the male
> only provides one cell; all the mitochondrial "machinery" is provided
> by the female.
>
> So you can see, mtDNA is strictly inherited thru the maternal line.
> And when a mutation ocurrs in mtDNA all offspring inherit the same
> distinctive mutation. But mutations in mtDNA are much more rarer than
> mutations in YDNA, therefore a single mismatch in mtDNA can mean a
> shared ancestor many, many generations ago, beyond the conventional
> genealogical framework. This is our deeper ancestry link!
>
> Saludos,
>
> Victor
>
>
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino" Josiett3@s... wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Someone once explained to me that the mtDNA results were, in some
> cases, the
> > result of Spaniards marrying the "local girls" ........is this what
> you are
> > referring to, Arturo? I do not understand these numbers.....I am just
> > trying to make heads or tails out of it......and to justify the $$$$
> I spent
> > to get these numbers! :-)
> > Seriously, I don't mind spending the money if it will give me some
> clues as
> > to my ancestors, the migration pattern they followed, etc. I have only
> > researched about three or four generations on my Dad's maternal line and
> > three or four on my Mom's maternal and paternal lines so I have a
> long way
> > to go. I have been focusing on my Dad's paternal Trevino lineage and go
> > "way back" to about the 1400s in Spain.
> >
> > I really enjoy reading the messages everyone is sending regarding
> Y-DNA and
> > mtDNA because I am slowing learning a little here and there. What I
> really
> > like is finding out that I have matches to a few in this group, Linda,
> > Victor, Arturo and an exact match with Ed! Even though I have never
> met any
> > of you in person I do feel a connection! The only grandparent I
> knew was
> > my Mom's father and he died when I was 7 years old. My other
> grandparents
> > died before I was born. I only have one brother so you can see that my
> > familia is very small.......maybe that is why I am always looking
> for "mi
> > gente!" I have met several primos and primas (live ones!) through
> > genealogy and it feels good when we share information and discover
> that our
> > great-grandparents were brothers/sisters and here we are digging up
> their
> > information!
> >
> > It would be wonderful if a group were started concentrating on mtDNA.
> >
> > Josie in San Antonio
> >
>