Re: Haplogroup A ancestor

["Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@...>]

Ed:

Have you seen the census transcription we have done for Mezquitic?  
There are lots of "Yndio" Pinedos in Mezquitic and nearby Nostic in 
that census.  You can access the file in the Ranchos2 files section 
in a folder called ZZ_Colotlan Census project.  Mezquitic is in the 
pp. 115-124 file.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Serros" <ed@s...> wrote:
>
> Arturo,
> 
> Interesting that you should mention Bolaños silver mines in 
reference to your mtDNA and 
> our ancestors. My family's mtDNA is likely from that greater 
Bolaños mining area also. My 
> grandmother, born in Valparaiso, Zacatecas, was the illegitimate 
child of a hacendado 
> (Felguerez) and one of the servants (Pinedo). The Felguerez were 
originally in Mesquitic, 
> Jalisco and I believe were involved in the Bolaños mines not far 
away; it was there in 
> Mesquitic and later in Valparaiso, where they made their money 
after coming from 
> Asturias, Spain ~1790. Using the Mormon microfilms, I have found 
Pinedos in all these 
> mining towns. Lots of Villarreals also.
> 
> You are correct, however, that there was much importing of labor 
from different areas to 
> work the mines.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> 
> >
> > Victor, Josie, Linda, et al.
> > 
> > I too am a haplogroup A with the following mutations:
> > 
> > 16111T
> > 16223T
> > 16290T
> > 16319A
> > 16362C
> > 16390A
> > 
> > I have traced my strictly maternal line to a Josefa Magallanes 
born 
> > circa 1775 in the Bolanos/Chimaltitan area... most likely 
Tepecano 
> > (Southern Tepehuan) but who knows... by that time the Spanish 
were 
> > really pushing up the production of the mine in Bolanos and 
brought 
> > in a lot of other labor to the area.
> > 
> > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" 
<raices_regias@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Josie & Linda,
> > > 
> > > We share the same haplogroup A.  Although we're not an exact 
match 
> > we
> > > do match on some numbers.  Since we're dealing here with 
> > mitochondrial
> > > DNA, in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it means that our female 
> > common
> > > ancestor lived thousands of years ago, in prehistorical times.
> > > 
> > > Mitochondrial DNA is best suited to determine what is 
called "Deep
> > > Ancestry" of our maternal lineage.  We definitely share the same
> > > Native American roots in the distant past.
> > > 
> > > Warm Regards,
> > > 
> > > Victor
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino" 
<Josiett3@s...> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Message: 8       Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:55:34 -000        
From:
> > > "Erlinda
> > > > Castanon-Long" <longsjourney@y...>
> > > > 
> > > > Subject: Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
> > > > 
> > > > Victor you do match me on 4 numbers. mine are:Haplo group A 
16111T
> > > 16223T
> > > > 16290T 16319A 16335G 16362C 16526A
> > > > 
> > > > Josie, what were your numbers if you don't mind sharing? 
> > > > 
> > > > Linda in Everett
> > > > 
> > > > 
> =======================================================
> ==========
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Linda.....Hi Victor!
> > > > 
> > > > Is this what you are referring to (below)
> > > > 
> > > > HVR1> CRS
> > > > 16223T
> > > > 16290T
> > > > 16319A
> > > > 16362C
> > > > 
> > > > I just printed all this out last night and really did not 
read it
> > > (properly)
> > > > due to a lack of time.  I have been in Houston for a week and 
> > unable
> > > to do
> > > > "my thing" with my genealogy/DNA projects.  What do these 
numbers
> > > mean?   If
> > > > any match to you (Linda & Victor) does that mean we have a 
common
> > > ancestor
> > > > "somewhere"....?  Please feel free to enlighten me as I know 
> > absolutely
> > > > nothing about "this new DNA stuff"......I guess that tells my 
> > age!   :-)
> > > > 
> > > > Abrazos desde San Antonio, 
> > > > 
> > > > Josie
> > > >
> > >
> >
>