Re: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A ancestor---we are a match

[Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...>]

According to a series on the Discovery Channel on
early man that I saw a couple of months ago, we all
came from the same grandparents over 200,000
generations ago.

But seriously, I believe many of us are related since
most of us came from a mixture of common ancestors
that settled in the central plains of Mexico.  

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:

> BTW, how much does this cost?  I'll pay for my
> primo, whichever one  
> decides to do it.  Marge V.:)
> 
> On Nov 17, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Edward Serros wrote:
> 
> > Josie,
> >
> >  I guess we shouldn't be surprised that some of us
> are related since  
> > we are studying our
> >  ancestors that came from the same area. Today I
> checked my mtDNA  
> > results which I
> >  haven't done for awhile and you are an exact
> match at a low  
> > resolution level to my
> >  paternal grandmother, Maria Felguerez (via
> Cecilia Isordia).  I did  
> > not realize who you
> >  were.
> >
> >  Did you do the HVR1 and HVR2 mtDNA tests? If you
> did not do the HVR2  
> > and you have
> >  extra money lying around, I would be interested
> to see if we are  
> > related at an even closer
> >  (high resolution) level.
> >
> >  Welcome to the tribe. Now I have to look up all
> the material you have  
> > in the Ranchos
> >  database. My grandmother's data is below.
> >
> >  Even though I said that we shouldn't be
> surprised, I am. Amazing.
> >
> >  Abrazos,
> >
> >  Ed
> >
> >  HVR1 Haplogroup A
> >  HVR1 differences
> >  from CRS
> >  16223T
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  16290T
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  16319A
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  16362C
> >
> >  HVR2 differences
> >  from CRS
> >  64T
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  73G
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  146C
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  153G
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  182T
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  235G
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  263G
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  315.1C
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  522-
> >  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  523-
> >
> >
> >  --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T.
> Trevino" <Josiett3@s...>  
> > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Arturo......it seems that I match four of your
> six mutations.  Does  
> > this
> >  > mean we are related 'way 'way back?  
> Linda.....I also match four  
> > of yours.
> >  > Victor.....I don't have your numbers but I am
> pretty sure we share  
> > a few
> >  > also.  I haven't had a chance to do much more
> on this but hopefully  
> > I will
> >  > after the holidays.    Thanks!    Josie
> in San Antonio
> >  >Â 
> >  >Â 
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > HVR1 Haplogroup
> >  >
> >  > A
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > HVR1 differences
> >  >
> >  > from
> >  >  
> > <http://www.familytreedna.com/mtResDisplay.asp? 
> > kit=42332&code=P7670&crypt=%9
> >  >
>
2%C5%B9%98%7F%94%8Cz%91k%7D%B3%C3%99%BD%7C%94%81u%5C%8Ae%A7%B3%85%
> >  A4%9E%C9%A
> >  >
>
7%AAJ%A7%BFu%7C%CC%9B%B4j%95%9Am%A8%AA%B6%B3%5D%89x%8EnP%B2%99%7C%
> >  83%B9%AD%C
> >  > F%8CJ%CA%94%BC%9B%#HVR1> CRS
> >  >
> >  > 16223T
> >  >
> >  >Â  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  > 16290T
> >  >
> >  >Â  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  > 16319A
> >  >
> >  >Â  Â Â Â Â Â 
> >  > 16362C
> >  >
> >  >Â 
> >  >
> >  >Â Â 
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >Â Â  _____Â 
> >  >
> >  > From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On  
> > Behalf Of
> >  > Arturo Ramos
> >  > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:06 PM
> >  > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> >  > Subject: [ranchos] Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Victor, Josie, Linda, et al.
> >  >
> >  > I too am a haplogroup A with the following
> mutations:
> >  >
> >  > 16111T
> >  > 16223T
> >  > 16290T
> >  > 16319A
> >  > 16362C
> >  > 16390A
> >  >
> >  > I have traced my strictly maternal line to a
> Josefa Magallanes born
> >  > circa 1775 in the Bolanos/Chimaltitan area...
> most likely Tepecano
> >  > (Southern Tepehuan) but who knows... by that
> time the Spanish were
> >  > really pushing up the production of the mine in
> Bolanos and brought
> >  > in a lot of other labor to the area.
> >  >
> >  > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com,
> "v.h.villarreal"  
> > <raices_regias@y...>
> >  > wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > Josie & Linda,
> >  > >
> >  > > We share the same haplogroup A.  Although
> we're not an exact match
> >  > we
> >  > > do match on some numbers.  Since we're
> dealing here with
> >  > mitochondrial
> >  > > DNA, in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it
> means that our female
> >  > common
> >  > > ancestor lived thousands of years ago, in
> prehistorical times.
> >  > >
> >  > > Mitochondrial DNA is best suited to determine
> what is called "Deep
> >  > > Ancestry" of our maternal lineage.  We
> definitely share the same
> >  > > Native American roots in the distant past.
> >  > >
> >  > > Warm Regards,
> >  > >
> >  > > Victor
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T.
> Trevino" <Josiett3@s...>
> >  > wrote:
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Message: 8Â Â Â Â Â Â  Date: Wed, 19 Oct
> 2005 
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