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Victor,
Yes, you got it right. The state has always made a
second copy of the records. The originals (when the book closes) get sent to the
state capital and the second copy is supposed to stay in the municipio it came
from.
The registro civil in Zacatecas City should
have the copy of the tome in question (let's hope that it survived la Toma
de Zactecas). I had this problem with records from Durango. The
documents were found in the registro civil in the city of Durango.
Like someone said before ' thank God the Spanish
were compulsive record keepers". They taught the Mexicans
well!
Elvira
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:36
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de Hijos
Legitimos
I'm not sure if it has always been the same but I
understand that
civil registry records are always made in duplicate; one
for the local
office and a copy for the State archives of the civil
registry. So
even if the local copy was burnt there's a chance that
the State's
copy survived. As I said, that is how it is done today
but I'm not
sure if the same rule applied back in 1903.
The other
question is where were the microfilms made, at the local
office or at the
state office?
Victor
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie
Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>
wrote:
>
> Victor, I was
just going over the civil registry records I have
checked and I haven't
found any trace of my father, aunt or
grandmother, nor of a marriage record
for my grandfather Francisco
Olague and grandmother Gorgonia Garcia.
I checked the civil registry
for Guadalupe, a town not far from Jerez,
where my aunt Soledad's (my
father's only sibling) death certificate says
she was born. Also, the
priest didn't say the records were burned in
1903, but later when the
Revolucion war came to Jerez. It seems
whoever wanted to destroy
records set fire to the church and the civil
registry office since the
list of LDS films has gaps for 1903 in the
bautismos of hijos
naturales and all other records in the civil
registry. Maybe someone
there that wanted to hide something took
advantage and destroyed the
"evidence". I know Hitler destroyed his
home town in Austria to
prevent people finding proof he had Jewish blood,
and a lady at the
FHC says that some politico in Montreal wanted to do the
same thing
because he was illegitimate. Why else would only a portion
of records
go missing in both places, the church and the civil
registrar?
>
> One thing I now know for sure, probably, is that
since my father was
not listed in the book for hijos legitimos for 1903,
that he must have
been listed as an hijo natural. Since I don't find
a marriage record
for my grandparents, I think they were not married.
My grandfather
was known to be a very large, tall and intimidating man---"a
very hard
man" someone said. He mistreated the women in his family,
even his
own mother, and my mother left Colorado when she couldn't stand
his
bullying and interference, and she didn't return to my father
until
after his father had died. My father just would not stand up to
his
father. (My father was only five feet tall and maybe he knew
his
father would kill him or something. She said that when she used
to
spank his other grandchildren (my aunt's boys), my grandfather used
to
come and pinch me and make me cry. He was mean and
dangerous. I
heard from a cousin that someone was out to get him in
Mexico, so he
came to the US during the Revolucion.
>
> I'll
keep hacking away and maybe the forces will feel sorry for me
and give me a
clue.
>
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA
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