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Re: [ranchos] Northern California book of the quarter


 
I loved Victor's suggestion, but wondered how we would pick a book that would benefit the many of this group. I think I was more motivated in working on the Colotlan census because I was from that area, but would like to think I would have helped even if I wasn't from that area.

I'm in agreement with anything that will help us as a group or will help certain of us within the group advance our knowledge.

joseph

ps: nothing says that we can't divide the group into quarters and rotate clockwise as we pick a book concerning that area. Maybe we can get all interested parties to chime in and we'll see what geographic areas the participants are researching. in the mean time we can see what group of books the N CA group comes up with and we can compare lists. it seems to me that finding books in English that dig in and cover our areas will be a challenge. We'll all have to be patient in the choosing process.


Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo wrote:
OK Northern Californian's, this is a challenge to us all. What if we 
plan that for our next meeting in March we each present the name of 1 
book along with the author, the possible merits of the book to the 
group and we vote on it as the book of the quarter. As the first book 
it might be best if it's a book in english, a book we can all get 
either through Amazon or any of the on-line booksellers and that the 
book should be $50.00 or less because some of these books are very 
expensive.

Once we have decided on a book we can communicate it to all of the 
Ranchos members. Anyone from Ranchos who wants to participate can do 
so.

And here's to all of Ranchos, what say you on this matter because it 
is now on the table for commentaries, suggestions etc.

Feliz Año a todos........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen <mary.allen3770@s...> 
wrote:
  
Hello Victor:  
   
  I know this was addressed to Joseph, but I couldn't help but 
    
overhear!  It sounds like a wonderful set of ideas.  Book reviews are 
good because most of us have limited time and to be directed to good, 
useful or interesting books is critical.  On the other hand,  it 
would be a real service to catalog vital information from certain 
books so that everyone doesn't have to search through the same 
books.  It would be a great reliable bank everyone could draw from.  
But we have to give credit where credit is due....Alicia did get this 
started. 
  
   
  Isn't it great?  The group weaves in and out but is never 
    
stagnant. The group is like a great tapestry. From the bottom you see 
a lot of apparently disconnected threads.  But, from the top, it all 
comes together into a great design!  
  
   
  My work is wonderful but very stressful.  I coordinate volunteer 
    
services for the terminally ill, my second career after 38 years in 
education.  At the end of the day, I am sometimes emotionally drained 
but I  kick off my shoes and head for the computer to see what 
everybody has to say.  It is refreshing. Sometimes I smile at the 
polite exchanges.  Sometimes I wonder.  But it is always 
motivating.   Then I am ready for the next day.  Thanks.  
  
   
  Mary

"v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...> wrote:
  Joseph,

I've thought of something similar but instead of getting a group
together to simply comment about or review a history book which is
very good, to take it one step further and create a searchable
database with all the data of genealogical relevance.

Something similar to what we were doing with "The Colotlán Census"
from the Archivos Españoles where each team member gets assigned a
chapter or section of a book and as he/she is reading it enters the
who, when, where and what data into a previously agreed form.

When everybody gets their part done it would be a simple task to
concatenate all the parts into a single searchable database.  Then
we'd select another book and do the same and so on.

The other part of the idea is to have a user interface that you can
access online where one would select a book's title from the 
    
database
  
and then be able to search for a person's name and get a list of all
the instances that the name appears and the associated events to 
    
it. 
  
You would also be able to filter by dates and read all the persons
included in a selected period, some sort of timeline.

With an application like that we would not only learn about history
but we'd be accumulating data to be mined later with ease for our
genealogical purposes.  I don't think any copyrights would be
infringed by extracting the "data" this way out of a book.

Of course there would have to be some criteria for the book's
selection process.  We would have a list of "candidate" books and 
    
then
  
by consensus make a selection or maybe there could be several teams
working on their own selected book projects.  "Sumaria Relación" is 
    
a
  
book that should be in such a list as well as many other history 
    
books
  
from colonial times.  What do you think?  I have already toyed 
    
around
  
with a possible database structure.

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
    

Alicia Carrillo wrote:

      
Victor and Ed,
 
The reason I chose to use this quote is because the topic was 
        
on 
  
historical novelas and or movies. My recollection was that in 
        
times 
  
past many movies and novelas were created with this thematic 
        
matter. 
  
It is not that I agree or disagree with it, my opinion is not 
        
of 
  
any relevance as it is not well informed either way. The two of 
        
you 
  
appear to have much better information and anecdotal data than I
        
do. I 
    
appreciate your inputs and comments and for my part enjoy when 
        
two 
  
diverging views are presented with facts or data to represent 
        
each 
  
point of view.
 
Please continue to enlighten us when ever possible. Since 
        
joining
  
this 
    
group I have been reading as much as possible on the history of
        
Mexico 
    
at different time periods.
 
That might be something we could do as a group, provide more 
        
names of 
  
books and texts that each of us feels would be enlightening to 
        
the 
  
group as it relates to our research. You know what they say, 
several people might read the same material and come away with 
differing opinions. I would love to belong to a Latino/Mexican 
literary group so that we could hold open discussions. I guess 
        
I am 
  
dreaming but if you don't have dreams you are not truly living.
        
dreams come through with action. here is how you do it. get 
      
together 
  
with those Rancho Members right in your area and pick a book to 
      
read or 
  
and get together quarterly to review the book. put a notice up in 
      
the 
  
family history center you attend and the others in the SF bay 
      
area (you 
  
could mail them to the others unless you want to make a visit).

just an idea.

joseph

      
 
Take care,