Joseph,
Please don't put this in the mail to the group.
I don't want it to be construed as casting aspersions on the person
being considered for the research job. However, you may post those parts that
you think won't affect anyone. I have had work done by other genealogists
in Mexico and had really bad experiences. I tend to agree with Mickey Garcia.
Know the people you are dealing with first.
Regarding stipends: In Mexico, it is really not
customary to pay ahead for work. You risk not getting the work done.
I advise you to get in touch with people from the
La Familia Group (genealogy research) out of Los Angeles area. I think
they have done exactly what you are suggesting with varied experiences. (I
am aware that some people got badly burned and weren't to keen on it being
known). Some guy was selling over and over the information he had
gathered before for a client and telling them he had researched it for
them. I would get their opinion before I committed.
Check with Aaron and Sylvia at this address aaronsyl@.... they organize
research trips to Mexico and they have extensive connections with genealogists
and state archivists.
Also, please, please, check with Benicio
Samuel Sanchez Garcia. Benicio does travel around the country of Mexico
and he has contacts through other genealogical associations as well
as through his Church's contacts. He also gives you updates every so often if he
does or has someone do it for you.
Benicio is from Torreon, Coahuila and has gone to Jerez before to do
genealogy research. I think he knows a number of the people mentioned in
this series of e-mails. I trust his opinion.
This gentleman has impeccable credentials
(this one I can vouch for), He is honest, he is a Mormon who takes family
research extremelly serious. Most of his colaborators are also Mormons, so
you know for sure they will do an honest job to the best of their
ability. (Sorry about mentioning religion - I usually don't like to bring
that up on an unrelated subject, however, I simply am trying to impress
upon you that the man is honest. Also, I am not a Mormon) This is the
gentleman who helped me get the records filmed for San Juan de Guadalupe,
Durango. He and associates did everything and now the records are available to
the public.
He would be a great interviewee for your programs.
You can contat him at the address below.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:40
PM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Researcher for
Zacatecas
Joseph,
Jose Luis took the words right out of my
mouth! :-) I was also thinking the same thing.......if we,
those that are interested, each contribute a certain amount of $$$, would
Senor Leonardo de la Torre Berumen do research for us? I met Senor de la
Torre a few years ago in Jerez and he is a very nice person, very
knowledgeable......and a very sharing person. I would not hesitate to
have him do research for me. I really believe we are on to a good thing
here......
Josie Trevino Trevino
San Antonio, TX
Joseph; With enough interested parties, $100 may not be
necessary. I know a family that contributes $25 each to do their family line
per month. If there was a coordinated effort to line up all parties/surnames
and locations then it would be possible for the searcher to do each line and
make a good living. Do you agree ? I wonder if this is a practicable
suggestion. Arturo may be on to something and if it works out then a link will
have been established that we all can follow. We would need to see the film
documentation or it would be valueless.
I would like to hear your take on
the matter as I think that this could blossom.
Jose Luis
Macias
decendant of Francisco Macias, of Jerez,
Zacatecas
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
<makas@...>
Sent: Dec 4, 2005 11:46 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Arturo Ramos
<arturo.ramos2@...>
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for
Zacatecas
Arturo what do you suppose a figure would be for this monthly
stipend?
Are you thinking that several of us that might be interested
could
contribute to come up with this monthly stipend? Did you get an idea
of
what he was talking about?
I wonder how many hours of research
$100 would buy me? Well that is all
I'd be willing to contribute. I have a
dead end in Zacatecas, Zacatecas
I need "advice" in knowing how to get
around.
let me know if you think this would buy me something and if so
I'll send
you 5 scanned records that will give you the information he will
need to
do my preliminary
investigation.
joseph
Arturo Ramos wrote:
>I
have been corresponding with this man for the last week and I will
>be
meeting with him during my upcoming trip to Mexico. He has
>proposed doing research in the Zacatecas state archives for a monthly
>stipend. I was wondering if there is anybody who is intereste
and
>would be willing to "try him out". His name is Leonardo de
La Torre
>Berumen and he is the municipal archivist in
Jerez.
>
>From: leonardo de la torre
[mailto:leon_torre@...]
>Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:21
PM
>To: arturo_ramos@...
>Subject: RE: Investigaciones
Genealogicas
>
>Señor Ramos si gusta nos vemos en Colotlàn, porque
a
>Zacatecas se hacen como 2 horas y media de distancia,
>lo que
le pediria si gusta que platiquemos largo y
>tendido como decimos los
mexicanos puedo quedarme allà
>en hotel, no se con comida pasaje y hotel
le parecen
>unos 800 pesos en moneda mexicana, y ya si le
interesa
>el trabajo, puedo trabajarle a Usted por
mensualidades
>de 200 dolares para sacarle todo lo que le
interese
>sobre familias que tengan que ver con las del sur
de
>zacatecas, es decir de Colotlàn, Huejuquilla el
Alto,
>Huejucar, Mezquitic y Monte Escobedo. Porque ese
>precio
porque esto lo hago en mis ratos libres y
>realmente me llevo buen
tiempo haciendolo, yaque mi
>trabajo me absorve mucho pues estoy al
frente del
>Archivo Historico Municipal de Jerez y es
buen
>compromiso dirigir ese espacio,asì es que por ello
>pongo
este precio por que tengo otras ocupaciones,
>tambièn le trabajo asi de
modo mensual a un miembro de
>la Academia de Heraldica y Genealogia de
la Ciudad de
>Mèxico. Otra cosa a lomejor Usted pasa por
Jerez,porqe
>es la pasada para ir a Colotlàn,si viene por tierra
es
>decir en vehiculo, solo que se venga por avion a
>Guadalajara
y de Guadalajara a Colotlàn por vehiculo,
>y si llega al Aeropuerto de
Calera, si debe pasar por
>Jerez. Porque esta via es Calera, Jerez,
Tepetongo,
>Huejucar, Colotlan y Tlaltengo, que tambièn es
un
>lugar muy importante para algunos genealogistas, pues
>es un
pueblo de indios fundado desde 1542, y contiene
>archivo desde 1626, muy
rico acervo que ya he
>consultado en varios momentos.
>Sin
màssuamigo Leo. Digame el dia y la hora en que nos
>veamos en colotlàn,
ahi tengo dos grandes amigas
>Lasmaestras de Leòn que pueden recibirnos,
ellas tiene
>un grupo de protecciòn de monumentos
coloniales
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:06
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Support Fund
Nominations
MMG8938@... wrote:
Hello:
Although I am very flattered I do not wish to be
nominated. I really think Kitty would do well. However, I am
here to help in anyway that I can; please let me know
how. okay, thanks
Also, just want to add a little about the monthly
'stipend' on the man from Jerez. He is a very good
source.
who was the good source? El señor de la
Torre or your person who suggested not going the 'stipend'
way?
thanks,
joseph
I have talked to someone who is very well versed in
research from Mexico and it was suggested that you be careful in a 'monthly
stipend'. It is better to order a specific job and get that done
instead of a stipend.
Mickey Garcia
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