Re: [ranchos] Names of tribes in Sonora records

[alice wissing <alice_wissing@...>]

Kitty,

 

That's really neat.  You are one of the few Mexicans out there who will know with certainty the tribe from which you descend.  The rest of us can go on wondering the rest of our lives.

I think it's sad that the priests never bothered to identify the type of Indian involved in the sacrament being performed.  They ruined it for us poor folks who feel a need to find out what we are. 

 

I was reading Victor Villasenor's "Rain of Gold" where the feet of a Tarahumara Indian were described, and they were just like my feet.  I descend from an "Yndio" on my mom's side who most likely came from the Sierra Madre Occidental area, and I was so excited, thinking I'd found my Indian heritage.  I wrote to Victor, asking where he learned what Tarahumara feet look like, and his sister responded (she answers all his e-mail) but she didn't take me seriously.  She said, "Thanks for telling us about your feet lady."  I felt like an idiot! 

 

My own family thinks I'm nuts for doing things like that.  I'm so glad you people out there are all crazy, too. 

 

Merry Christmas Everybody!

 

Alice

kitty_cortez <kitty@...> wrote:

> We have found in the Banamichi and Arizpe Baptisimal records where 
> our ancestors were Opata Indios.  Not speaking or reading Spanish, 
> we didn't recognize the term Opata, until we started reading all the 
> wonderful information that comes thru the Ranchos site.  All the 
> years of researching Rich's ancestors in Jalisco and Zacatecas, we 
> have never found the name of the Indios,  but only three generations 
> back, we find that my father, born in Banamichi, Sonora, has 
> ancestors clearly listed as Opata Indios.  This area of Sonora is 
> very hard to research, since the University of Arizonia went in and 
> filmed a lot of the church records, (called the 811 filmes), so now 
> the FHL does not see the need to extract this information on their 
> own films.  So you find very little extracted out there on the FHL 
> website.
> We
>  were fortunate to spend a few days at the University of Arizona, 
> Tuscon,  and got into the 811 films.  There are 27 rolls of films.  
> Found some census and printed every page of it on their machines.  
> We also printed the Index to these 811 films, if anyone needs 
> information as to Film number and topic.  FHL did not want to 'buy' 
> these films from the University, so we are only able to view them in 
> AZ.  When we have some free time, we really need to inter-library 
> loan them to our local library.
> I know this site does not cover Sonora, but I realize that some 
> members of Ranchos also get into Sonora,  so if anyone needs 
> information about this "Index to the 811 films",  please contact us 
> directly.  
>
> Kitty Cortez
> kitty@...

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