Re: [ranchos] Alicia of San Jose

Hola Raul,

In response to your letter where you tell of your mother searching for her natural father Jose Carrillo. My heart breaks for her. To live your entire life wondering what became of your father must be heartbreaking.

My husband Juan Carrillo's dad was Antonio Carrillo. He was raised almost as an orphan therefore we did not know much about his family. His father died when he was young and his mother left him and his two brothers to be cared for by family members and not close family at that. He grew up not as a family member but mostly as a hired hand for the family's ranch. He never learned to read or write. It was said that his mother was in Kansas but he could never verify it. He died in 1985 before I began my inquiry into our ancestry. What a shame that I did not take the time or opportunity to search or even to ask him in detail while he was alive.

That is what compelled me to go to the rootsweb message boards and post a message searching for Mariana Carrillo Jauregui, (his mother). My father in-law was believed to have been born around 1901 in the Municipio de Nochistlan but was raised in Jalpa Zacatecas very close to Calvillo Aguascalientes. He had two brothers but I don't know what their names were as I never met any of his family nor for that matter did my husband. We could never get a birth certificate for him because it turns out that the records were burned or lost for 1899-1901 in Nochistlan. When I was requesting films they also showed the year 1901 was missing but hopefully I can find something be it in Baptisms or Confirmations.

I have requested my first 8 rolls of film from my family history center and should have them in about a week. What I have gleaned is mostly oral history. That would be interesting to see if we do have a family connection somewhere back in time.

Thank you for writing and we'll keep in touch. I will submit my history as soon as I have something substantial.

Muchas Gracias y Buena Suerte,

Alicia Avelar, Olmos, Aguayo, Ruiz de Carrillo

"Raul R. Felix" <vato3@...> wrote:

Hola. I responded to Alicia Carrillo's nopalitos story because I was seeking info with regards the Carrillo name. I believe my grandfather's name was JOSE CARRILLO but I know very little else about him. Based on a brief autobiography from my mother, JOSE CARRILLO married MARIA GARCIA in Chihuahua. They had one child, a daughter, Guadalupe, born 12/12/03. I have NOT BEEN TO CONFIRM/VALIDATE their marriage or the birth of the child via the Chihuahua City records. I've made two trips to Ciudad Chihuahua (1997-98). Subsequent trips were made to Zacatecas City. My research group (La Familia, Anaheim, CA.) also visited nearby Jerez, Guadalupe and Fresnio. It turns out that my families FERNANDEZ (Grandmother) and FELIX (grandfather) are from JEREZ, ZAC. and a place called Hermita De Guadalupe..which I have yet to locate. I can tell you more about Jerez if you are interested. It is my hope that our research group will visit there again. What I'd like to share with you is that my research indicates that MARIA GARCIA'S name was actually MARIA MACIAS. If so, she was 17 at the time of her death (1905) leaving a 2-3 year old daughter (Guadalupe) in the care of friends while her husband JOSE CARRILLO had been drafted (Porfidio Diaz) and sent to serve his enlistment in Sonora. Guadalupe was brought to the USA by those who were left to care for her and thus became her foster parents. JOSE CARRILLO returned to Chi. City to find his wife dead and child gone. Over the years Guadalupe wrote away for information about herself and her parents but never got a single response. She was not allowed to go there in person nor could she afford to do anything more than write letters and make inquiries of people from that area. It was her greatest wish to someday learn what became of her father JOSE CARRILLO. She died in 1985, age 82, and is buried in Delano, CA. next to her husband Leonardo Felix. My research efforts will next focus on researching the LDS-Parral/Hidalgo archives for information regarding MARIA (GARCIA) MACIAS. Our research group visited Parral in 1997 but the archives were still in boxes and not open to the public. Jerez, on the other hand, has the original archives open and available for research. It may turn out that you and I have some blood lines in common? If so, this all comes about because of our mutual interest in nopalitos./Adelante-Raul R. Felix