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Re: [ranchos] missing baptismal & other records


 


Gloria Delgado wrote:
But here's my question:  He should have been baptized sometime in April 
1869.  Although we couldn't find him in any of the relevant books, we 
did come across a mystifying reference to a 'libro secreto #2' 
sorry but I never heard of this before.
 wherein 
(I assume)  were written the entries of natural or illegitimate 
children [Film #299489, Bautismos del Sagrario 1868-1870].   If I were 
to find this libro secreto #2, maybe it would list my grandfather's 
baptism.

Has anyone else come across a reference to this libro secreto #2, or 
does anyone know how to find out more about it?  We asked the personnel 
at the LDS Library,
do you mean at the LDS Library in SLC or the Family History Center near you? I know there is a department of the LDS Library in SLC that handles questions on international genealogy, but I'm not sure they would be better able to answer this question as it sounds like a reference to something the priest were doing locally, but you never know. Also the Hispanic reading room at the library of Congress has an "ask a librarian" program:

http://www.loc.gov/rr/askalib/ask-hispanic-eng.html

the Library of Congress also has a genealogy section and here is there ask a librarian page:

http://www.loc.gov/rr/askalib/ask-genealogy.html
 but they didn't have a clue as to what it meant.  
Later on my grandfather went through the Seminary in Guadalajara, and 
studied there intending to enter the priesthood; and I would think that 
one of the primary papers you would need to enter the Seminary is a 
baptismal record.
if he had been ordinated and actually became a priest you might have been able to find him in these records, but I think not in your situation---oops the time span is wrong as well:

Title
Documentos eclesiásticos, 1604-1898

Authors
Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra en Guadalajara.
Ordenes de los ingresos al sacerdocio.
Documents regarding ordinations to the priesthood within the Roman Catholic Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

Subjects
Mexico, Jalisco - Church records
Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
Spanish

Publication
Salt Lake City : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1957-1958

Physical
131 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.


  I've been trying to clean up and complete my genealogy as much as 
possible to submit it to this group (and to make Joseph happy).
hey I'm happy     )
  Unfortunately the fact is that my genealogy has several 'holes' for 
which I have only oral documentation
welcome to the rest of us. I "only" have oral history and vivid memories of the time my grandmother tackled me to force castor oil down my throat for her existence. I can then find her parents and much information going back from there, but as far as the records go there is nothing on paper for my grandmother ever having lived on this earth. I can go to her grave and find burial papers but nothing saying her father and mother were so and so.

don't worry the gaps will fill in as they were meant to be filled in. And if it is up to the following generation of family genealogist to do the filling in well that is just something we now will have to live with.
... (and sometimes not even that, 
just a very strong intuition based on extensive research) and I don't 
have a clue as to what to do about it.  Perhaps just accept it as a 
fact of life and submit what I  have?  No responsible genealogist wants 
to propagate errors, but if I don't turn in what I have, the little I 
do know, and the connections I've made,  will be lost.
I didn't understand. How will it be lost if you don't turn it in? What you need to do is get your work as complete as you can and make 20 copies of it and distribute it to your family far and wide with a cover letter asking that the older ones pass this info on to the younger ones with their promise that when they get old they will pass it on to their younger ones with the same promise. As you update and get new info then make another 20 copies and pass them on. Keep doing this. hopefully 10 generations from now your work will still be floating around. Hopefully it won't take 10 generations for someone in your family to take up your work where you left off. In my family I wonder if 20 generations will be enough!
  What have 
others done in similar cases?  Your thoughts or ideas would be 
appreciated.

Thanks,
Gloria 
  


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